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For-profit will never be for you.

I think Lemmy is training me not to start arguments because all y’all lemmings don’t just yell into the void, you link back to further reading and now if I want to stand my ground I’m gonna have to do like an hour(s) of research. Welp, maybe if I didn’t want to do research on a complex topic I shouldn’t have started talking about Chinese economic policy… Sigh

I still think you’re dead wrong for the moment but the order and civility with which you’re presenting your claims when faced with my admittedly hostile tone in the previous comments is something I admire. I’ll get back to you after I’ve done some research.

You’re right about politicial ideas being more than 1 dimensional, but I think of the left-right spectrum as one specific measurement.

Oh my God. Holy fuck I gotta hand it to you for this amount of effort. It’s gonna take me a while to sort through all this, gimme a minute.

So… no protections, no real policy, no solid connection between the working class and power except for this notion that the government has the interests of the working class at heart. Is that right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_by_net_worth

Read through the above list and tell me these people must work for a living, that they could not live solely off of their assets. Why are these 607 people allowed to hoard such massive wealth and own so much if the working class controls the means of production and the economy? How is that good for anyone?

Oh, the government is separated into smaller local and regional governments and less than 10% of all Chinese citizens (there are 1.4 billion) are members of the CCP? Cool fun facts, I always love to learn, but you did not answer my question.

Does the government of the People’s Republic of China support and protect the legal right of the working class to control the means of production?

So you’re saying that the working class Chinese citizens have direct, official power over the means of production and can use that to further the political goals of the working class with no repercussions?

I don’t care what you call it, I’m not supporting fascist state capitalism.

There is actually technically no such thing as an authoritarian leftist. Leftism is defined as more egalitarian/less hierarchical. Tankies are right wingers that have been pushed into the same spaces as leftists because they are against Western nationalism.

It’s absolutely true that China’s economic growth and the effectiveness of the government’s COVID response is a factor, but my point was that the government has an enormous ability to influence the population. Of course the government you live under is going to have an advantage when it comes to having your approval. I’ve tried to make a point that being almost universally approved by the people that live under it is not an objective measure of morality or the amount of good it does, just popularity, and popular things aren’t always moral or good. I would also add that these numbers could simply be fudged, but I don’t know enough about the source to say that for certain and I knew you definitely wouldn’t believe it if it was true anyway.

But from how these responses are worded, I’m guessing that no matter what I say you’re just gonna stick with this narrative and let your brain decide that any information you take in is either in support of what you believe or a lie. I’m gonna go now.

Edit: after re-reading your earlier comment im actually curious about where you got that image of a graph. I know you said where it was from, but you never provided a link or the name of what it was from. That’s kind of bad form, you gotta properly cite your sources. Can you reply with it because I’m actually trying to learn more about China (cause, yk, they’re becoming kinda important) and also I think it would be funny if you were lying about the data and refused to link it

Are you going to address my actual point or just accuse me of not understanding kindergarten level math?

What a country thinks of its own government is not a good metric for how that government is actually doing. Quite a bit of disapproval shows significant cracks in unity, but significant approval just shows that people believe in their government. National pride was also pretty high when the United States was (it still is but I’m referring to when national pride was high) going around committing war crimes against any small nation that leaned communist and domestic terrorism against its own people in the 20th century.

And almost half of America approves of trump, what’s your point?

“reshape access” is a funny way of saying “deny medical treatment and kill people”

The way I see it, they could demand the same pay as 2 people so that their boss doesn’t have the hire 3 people.

Prime raise negotiation environment

So you’re saying even MY pictures have probably been edited by my phone without my consent? That’s really bad. I didn’t opt into this. I don’t like what this could be used for.

I like when my phone captures actual unedited pictures. I think it’s dangerous to modify recordings automatically without the user’s express consent.

Ew why

You forgot to include nuclear waste and finger nails. Rookie mistake.