





Federal Judge Richard Stearns said he appreciated the government acknowledging the error, calling it a “tragic” bureaucratic mistake. But he appeared to rule out holding the government in contempt, noting the violation did not appear intentional. He also questioned whether he has jurisdiction over the case.
“It might not be anybody’s fault, but she was the victim of it,” Stearns said, adding at one point that Lopez Belloza could explore applying for a student visa.
It 100% was someone’s fault, but the federal legal system won’t hold them accountable.
And if state legal systems won’t hold them accountable either, that leaves the system we had before legal systems, and the rich and powerful really doesn’t want the 99.99% of society to come to the conclusion that’s what it takes, because mobs tend to focus on revenge more than actual justice…
But revenge is better than nothing, and nothing is what we’re getting from the people we agreed should have a monopoly on justice and violence.


It indicative of the belief that people work for government officials…
Like. Step back and think for a second about all the fucking police resources a city has, all the surveillance and shit that goes on.
If he wanted to gather information on who ICE is, he has avenues to identify them besides asking residents to follow them around with cameras knowing full and well that gets people attacked by ICE.
If Walz was still a highschool football coach and saying this, I’d give him props.
But he’s a fucking governor…
He’s better than Jeffries and Schumer, but that’s not enough for a mayor these days, let alone someone running an entire fucking state. Bunch of words and zero action just like Newspm and Pritzker. If shit was fine they could be decent leaders, but they’ve shown time and time again they won’t take any actual action when we’re being murdered in their states by federal agents.
They don’t have the fight in them, so we can’t afford to let them be leaders during a fight.
Quick edit:
Like, he can just have cops follow ICE and document with their body cams or even a dude with a camera. That would be much better evidence later. And they could actually intervene when ICE breaks the law.
He can use stingrays to ping their phones as the roll out of where they deploy from
He can have cops detain them
There are so many more options a state has to stop federal overreach and abuses than random citizens can.
Walz ain’t asking us to help. He’s telling us he won’t do shit and it’s on us
And if that’s what he wants to do, he can get the fuck out of the way and let someone else lead while he follows


Or he could fucking prosecute them now…
I had a lot of hopes for Walz until he was in a position to actually do something. It makes sense now why the neoliberals threw him with Kamala.


Jan. 6th was stopped because they were a violent mob who didn’t think far enough ahead to expect to be shot. ICE is not that
Eh…
I’d argue not only do they act the same, a high percentage of recent ICE were likely at 1/6 in the mob.
but also an admission he cannot yet do it.
I think the only reason he hasn’t done it yet, is he needs to hold it thru midterms to fuck with or outright cancel elections in blue states via puppet appointees.
Do it now, he has to hold it 10 months. Do it 9 months from now, you only got to hold it a couple days.
We just gonna wait till they think it’s the perfect moment?
That means even when he is manipulating, he is revealing his motivations and admitting to his weaknesses.
It ain’t 5d chess, he wants to take over immediately, he wanted to do it in 2017. It’s just about how much the people around him can convince him it’s better to wait. First term.people were just bullshitting him. But one day Stephen Miller is going to say “today” and shit will get really fucking bad regardless of how much or how little weve been reacting.
If we don’t pick the day, they’ll pick the exact day they’re most likely to succeed.
Thats just relaity


it won’t be a one-time “fight back” moment
Jan 6 was stopped with a single bullet, ICE is also emboldened due to lack of immediate consequences and would likely back off when met with resistance. Again, I’m saying the presence of guns and the implication of violence is enough
I’m saying that they have the advantage in violence. They have the literal state monopoly on violence.
The state’s mo only on violence is part of the social construct and only exists when people have the belief the system is relatively fair. The majority no longer believe that.
But no, it’s not necessarily martial law.
They’re literally using ICE killing peaceful protestors as justification. Like, right now, today they’re doing it:
President Trump has threatened to impose martial law on Minnesota just hours after ICE goons shot a man during an enforcement operation.
“If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don’t obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the Patriots of I.C.E., who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the INSURRECTION ACT, which many Presidents have done before me, and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great State,” Trump declared on Truth Social on Thursday morning, ending with his trademark sign-off, “Thank you for you attention to this matter! President DJT.”
it makes no sense to help them build their preferred narrative.
Again, they’re building it regardless, preventing local/state from investigating, and now saying they won’t either.
but the win condition here is to not have martial law
Once again, it’s been just a few hours since Trump said if anymore people get killed by ICE, he’s doing martial law.


Yes, they increase violence, we do nothing, they increase violence… A ratchet literally works when one side does nothing and the other keeps doing shit.
Violence is happening regardless, doing nothing won’t stop it. It’s uneven because only one side is doing it, like… It’s “uneven” when one side acts and one doesn’t.
They’re gonna do it even if we don’t react.
No, he doesnt. Because any idiot should be able to tell by now if they don’t get the reaction they want, they’ll just fucking lie. Megan Good didn’t attack anyone, but they’re saying she did and used that as justification to kill her.
Because we’re letting them do whatever they want.
“Won”… two people got shot a week ago and ICE is still there abusing power, are you experiencing such learned helplessness that a week without a extrajudicial killing on the streets in one city means we “won”?
Edit:
To be clear, I’m not advocating for Mad Max shit.
The threat of a visibly armed populace is enough to melt ICE.
Hell, you can’t even really find videos of how they react to armed protestors, because ICE just leaves when they see guns out.
They’re out looking for the easiest possible targets. So take a lesson from people who have dealt with this for fucking decades and stay dangerous so you stay safe


Portalad shows how pacific protests are efficient.


And that’s just registered guns…
Like, anytime we’re talking about guns in America, it’s important to remember that a shit ton of guns don’t legally need to be registered anywhere.
Even Cali, handguns and rifles need registered when sold. So who knows how many existed before that rule and have never been sold since.


Many blue states have made it difficult to arm ourselves.
They absolutely have not…
Even if there are mandatory waiting periods, that just means it’s a good idea to go now.


This is what the “don’t react” people don’t understand.
If he’s gonna declare martial law and take over blue states to cancel their elections; it doesn’t matter if we react or not, they’re doing it anyways.
ICE is murdering people left and right, and trump is using the fact that protesters are being shot and killed as justification.
People think MLK strategy alone will work, but he was very vocal that it wouldn’t have without Malcolm making the only other option violence. Passisive resistance doesn’t work when the other option for the abusuers is “just keep abusing me bro, it’s cool”.
Passive resistance only works when the only two options are:
Shit gets better peacefully
Shit gets better violently
We can’t let them the have the option of:


Eh, there’s repost bots, and people who clearly manually run comments thru an AI to get a response, but they tend to give up after 2-3 replies. And, well it’s obvious when it switches from nonsensical and polite, to just jr high level bigoted insults with zero punctuation.
But it’s not like there’s unsupervised chatbots running around like reddit, at least from what I’ve seen.


Bill Clinton, lil Bush, and trump were all born in 1946, Biden in 1942.
With the exception of Obama (1961) it’s pretty fucking ridiculous we just keep moving the bar up for what an acceptable age is to placitate boomers.
It was bad enough 30 years ago before the dementia set in.


Not really…
Our one advantage was we were one of a handful of industrialized nations whose manufacturing power wasn’t bombed to hell and back.
Plus, we still sent a shitton of young men to die, so after the war we had a small labor pool which is why factory workers could get a job at 16 and retire at 60 with a full pension.
But our population rebounded, workers became cheap, and then we just sent all of our manufacturing overseas to help corporate profits.
This was always going to happen eventually, it seems sudden but the process has been going on for 40 years at least. Like, it’s been ending for as long as it was going on at this point, there’s nothing quick about it.


Random trivia:
In WW2 Greenland rejected Danish sovereignty because the nazis had captured the Danish government.
The US stepped up and filled the vacuum so that Canada, Norway, or anyone else would claim it, then just let them go back to the Danes after WW2.
Anyways, that’s why Greenland has been so cool with US military bases, and we just threw all of that goodwill away.
This will result in a lower US presence over there for decades, if it ever comes back.


but if this is true and someone attacked a cop, being shot in the leg doesn’t seem like an unfair response
I think that’s the crux of it…
What’s the chance of a federal officer involved shooting where they show a reasonable reaction?
Like, it’s not exactly common, and even when obvious murder they immediately claim it was defensive.
It’s “boy who called wolf”, no one is going to believe them. Even if there’s video of a guy charging ICE, to say they’re not at fault in anyway is stripping all context from the situation.


Still better than Danish…
/s
But yeah thanks! When I saw it was Finns I checked the Danes because they’re always doing their own thing, they go by 20s, so tens alternate “half 20s”.


It’s like someone had doubts people could count much past 12
More like the people who invented a lot of shit used base 12.
Things restarting at 12, is because the thing is so old, it predates base 10.
Like, pick a language, count to thirteen:
Ein, zwei, drei, fire, funf, sechs, seben, acht, neun, zein, elf, zwolf, dreizein…
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen…
Notice how 11 and 12 aren’t one-teen and two-teen?
On each hand is 4 sets of 3 knuckles, touch your thumb to each knuckle and your finger counting on one hand higher than we can with two. Pretty sure there’s some pretty neat math tricks with their method too, almost like built in abacus.
But all this is off memory.


Amazing how people who accuse progressives of not knowing how stuff works or whatever always forget that little detail
The sad part is, Ive explained it to them before.
I didn’t recognize them at first, but I blocked them at least once under that same user name from a different instance.
Like, they were just following me around calling me a commie for a while:
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=14783121
Looks like when they got banned from lemmy.ml, they suddenly wanted to make a new account for unrelated reasons.
It always starts out semi-rational, but when you respond rationally and calmly they immediately start making maga level insults. It’s probably why they have to keep making so many accounts.


Yes, a Democrat getting something through a 50/50 Senate is fucking impossible and has been for nearly two decades.
Then why did Biden say he could get the dem platform thru a Republican majority Senate if he was elected?
Like, let’s get that part cleared up, if it’s impossible as you say then Biden was either lying his ass off, or he was already so far gone mentally he really believed it.
In either case, how are you still insisting he is blameless?
Edit:
From 12/25/20
President-elect Joe Biden expressed optimism that he will be able to work with Republicans because of his years working alongside them, despite a sharply divided Congress.
“My leverage is, every senior Republican knows I’ve never once, ever, misled them,” Biden said on a telephone call Wednesday with several columnists, according to The New York Times. “I’ll never publicly embarrass them.”
Even into 2022
Speaking at a White House news conference, Biden vowed to work with Republicans and said he understood voters are frustrated despite Democrats’ surprisingly competitive campaign.
“The American people have made clear, I think, that they expect Republicans to be prepared to work with me as well,” Biden said. He also reiterated his intention to run for re-election in 2024 and said he would make a final decision early next year.
A White House official said Biden spoke by phone on Wednesday with Republican House leader Kevin McCarthy, who would be the leading candidate for House speaker if Republicans win a majority.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-look-curb-losses-republicans-us-congress-2022-11-09/
If it’s so obvious, why didn’t Biden notice?