Republicans who previously campaigned on a pro-life position are now ‘in a tough spot,’ experts say. Kelly Rissman speaks to GOP strategists and campaign managers about what’s going on behind the scenes
Because it was. It was a great wedge to capture religious types and people who were vaguely “in favor of not killing babies” but didn’t comprehend the reality of abortion bans. Now that they actually killed roe and we’re seeing the devastating impact, they can’t tout it as a success. And since roe is already dead, they can’t use it as a wedge to activate voters. So it goes away.
Worst thing that can happen to conservatives is achieving their stated objectives. Not only do people realize how terrible it is, but they also have to go find another issue to scare people about.
Yeah it’s a typical “made up issue” in order to distract from the politics that is actually important to peoples lives. And both parties are playing that game.
I haven’t read the whole article but I can guarantee that mainstream media is also not talking about the actual mechanisms at play here. They are “in on it”. They are taking it at face value that the GOP is actually serious, and thus are helping distract from real issues. Because they are owned by the same people that this benefit from this distraction. And this emotionally charged topic is helping them to sell advertisement.
Now that it’s actually impacting people horribly it’s the same for democrats: They could have passed a federal abortion right law, but it’s actually beneficial for them to drag it out. They could have stacked the supreme court but that is not in the interest of their masters.
And that way papers like the independent are still contributing to propaganda.
Be careful about this attitude. I personally haven’t been affected by the abortion ban, so to call it a ‘devastating impact’ is a bit of a bridge too far. I do understand that it’s devastating for many, but especially those who really want zero abortion they see it as a wild sucess and are fearful that if those ‘devil worshiping democrats’ get back into office, that they’ll undo all those years of their hard work. They are still using it as a wedge issue.
I can’t tell if you’re joking, but if a 10 year old having to cross state lines for an abortion, then the first state going after the doctor in the second state with legal action isn’t a bridge too far but my language is, you might live in a bubble.
The point is that the average Joe isn’t a 10 year old pregnant girl. Of course it’s horrible, but a large majority of people aren’t seeing (paying attention) to that. They haven’t and won’t feel the consequences for many years. They see this as hyperbole.
And the tiniest percentage of abortions are late term abortions, performed unexpectedly to save a live or prevent suffering. And yet THAT’S all Republicans talk about. Bans cause more harm than they prevent be a significant margin, but since the average republican isn’t a raped child they don’t care? Is that supposed to make me more charitable towards them??
Fucking disgusting how they talk about it. As if it’s just another political stratagem that went a little awry. Fucking fuckers.
Because it was. It was a great wedge to capture religious types and people who were vaguely “in favor of not killing babies” but didn’t comprehend the reality of abortion bans. Now that they actually killed roe and we’re seeing the devastating impact, they can’t tout it as a success. And since roe is already dead, they can’t use it as a wedge to activate voters. So it goes away.
Worst thing that can happen to conservatives is achieving their stated objectives. Not only do people realize how terrible it is, but they also have to go find another issue to scare people about.
Yeah it’s a typical “made up issue” in order to distract from the politics that is actually important to peoples lives. And both parties are playing that game.
I haven’t read the whole article but I can guarantee that mainstream media is also not talking about the actual mechanisms at play here. They are “in on it”. They are taking it at face value that the GOP is actually serious, and thus are helping distract from real issues. Because they are owned by the same people that this benefit from this distraction. And this emotionally charged topic is helping them to sell advertisement.
Now that it’s actually impacting people horribly it’s the same for democrats: They could have passed a federal abortion right law, but it’s actually beneficial for them to drag it out. They could have stacked the supreme court but that is not in the interest of their masters.
And that way papers like the independent are still contributing to propaganda.
Be careful about this attitude. I personally haven’t been affected by the abortion ban, so to call it a ‘devastating impact’ is a bit of a bridge too far. I do understand that it’s devastating for many, but especially those who really want zero abortion they see it as a wild sucess and are fearful that if those ‘devil worshiping democrats’ get back into office, that they’ll undo all those years of their hard work. They are still using it as a wedge issue.
I can’t tell if you’re joking, but if a 10 year old having to cross state lines for an abortion, then the first state going after the doctor in the second state with legal action isn’t a bridge too far but my language is, you might live in a bubble.
The point is that the average Joe isn’t a 10 year old pregnant girl. Of course it’s horrible, but a large majority of people aren’t seeing (paying attention) to that. They haven’t and won’t feel the consequences for many years. They see this as hyperbole.
And the tiniest percentage of abortions are late term abortions, performed unexpectedly to save a live or prevent suffering. And yet THAT’S all Republicans talk about. Bans cause more harm than they prevent be a significant margin, but since the average republican isn’t a raped child they don’t care? Is that supposed to make me more charitable towards them??
that’s all it ever was to them. they don’t believe in anything other than their own power.