Yeah, because everyone is asking for that. They will force ads into everything they can, because Google is an Ad company.
Go away! Batin’!
Water… like from the toilet??
Hell.
Best comedy ever made.
*documentary
God damn it Google.
When I turn on the TV, it’s fine if the masthead is a banner advertising a new show. I’m literally using the product to find things to watch.
But fast food? That can fuck right off.
I’ve had an Nvidia Shield since they came out, about 6 months ago when I started seeing a car ad I was like “it’s time to switch to something else…”
Or just install a new launcher
I have yet to find one that isn’t lacking basic features like being about to put the device to sleep.
I’ve been using Sideload Channel Launcher since they started putting ads on the home screen. It’s a simple clean layout that is easy to set up and get everything you want on it. It even has a icon you can add for power settings.
What did you switch to?
My shield has always been laggy… I’d like to find a TV “OS” that can run apps and is actually fast.
The Zidoo Z9X Pro, it’s about the same price and supports Dolby Vision and Atmos in Kodi (they have their own build called ZDMC) and is generally faster then the Shield (USB 3, SATA, 4 GB RAM, etc… ).
It doesn’t seem to support the DRM protected streaming apps that use Widevine though (Netflix and the like) since I can’t find them in the Google Play Store, which sucks, but I can just use the smart apps on my LG TV for that.
It seems that it’s really difficult to find a STB that supports everything these days and doesn’t come with shitty specs/is years old 😑
FLauncher is another great option — and open source!
You
Have made my day, most likely my week. Ads aside, I friggin HATE the Chromecast UI
Now, let’s pretend that I’m 5 yrs old. How do I get this to. Be the default launcher? I’ve already combed through the settings options and can’t seem to figure it out…
Settings -> Projectivy Launcher Settings -> General -> Override current launcher
Plus, allowing it in accessibility options
Has there been a company that has experienced such a fast fall from grace as Google?
Mere years ago they were viewed as the bastion of intellectuals in tech. They worked on stuff that was deemed “not evil”, people that worked there were deemed the best and brightest, and their culture was celebrated so highly that literal movies have been made about working there.
Obviously, the reality is different from the vision, but in a short amount of time they’ve implemented URA, have had multiple mass layoffs where people were locked out overnight with no more than a sentence in an email after a decade of work, have doubled-down on enshitification of their services, and have alienated a significant chunk of their workers through RTO and cost cutting.
Anyone who bought into the don’t be evil story / marketing is being willfully naive. Like all the big tech companies they’re basically intelligence fronts. Big tech is big brother. You don’t even have to look hard to see how intertwined with the CIA / NSA Google had been from the beginning. Furthermore, Snowden’s exposure of PRISM made it clear that it wasn’t just a few grants early on, it was setup by design to limit govt liability yet allow mass surveillance to go on unabated and the entire launch of Gmail is yet a single token example. Don’t trust big tech.
Still, they completely pulled out of China to protect their users’ privacy the moment China asked for full access to their data. Google back then was completely different than today. Google today will never pull out of China and give up revenue from the most populous country in the world. In fact, I think Google will reenter chinese market the moment Chinese government let them. Out of all big tech, only Google not having any presence in China even though Android is very popular there. Google execs are probably cursing their “don’t be evil” predecessor for pulling out of China now.
Google and Roku primarily make money from ads.
Apple does some stuff that isn’t great, but the Apple TV doesn’t have ads like their competitors. Apps can advertise what’s inside of them when they’re selected, but that’s it on the Home Screen.
Ya, so… They didn’t GIVE me the Google TV device, I had to buy it. Therefore they got their money from me for that hardware. I’m not using other ‘free’ google products that cost them money on that device so why would they be showing ads? What cost are the recouping?
For the record, I have not seen this and we do have a number of google TV’s in our house. However our primary TV uses an Nvidia Shield.
I’m a product designer who has worked on a lot of products that have been monetized with ads.
It’s pretty common for a company to split their revenue targets between register sales and monetization deals. You break even on the hardware, and make profit on the ads.
If you have a CCwGTV, you should be using Apps Only mode. Sucks that Google hides this, because I’ve found that this is the best streaming device for my needs, but they just keep pushing ads like this. Makes me want to do a homebrew chromecast device.
But switching to Apps Only mode is a decent workaround… for now. https://support.google.com/googletv/answer/10070784?hl=en
Can’t you install a custom launcher?
Fucking uber have ads, my bank app have ads, everything have ads now. It’s a Fucking nightmare.
Uber has ads in the cars?
The app, sometimes cars have ads too.
Wtf. Uber is not even cheap.
And, no kidding, sometimes ads have ads.
Google is, and always has been, an advertising company. Thats their bread and butter
I understand putting ads on a free service like Google search or YouTube. But I bought this fucking Chromecast. I even suggested it to friends and family.
Another case that pisses me off is having bought a pixel watch at premium price and they want me to pay a monthly shitty Fitbit subscription to provide me with some trivial computations.
Same thing with their Google home screen. You pay a good price and you need a subscription to use the fucking sleep sensor that you paid for.
Another one is having a premium pixel pro and they still want me to buy a Google one subscription to get useless photos filters with Google photos.
I love that Android is open source (mainly) but fuck you Google you are an embarrassment to your former self.
There is a reason why these things are under $50, and the boxes without ads cost 3x more. This is always Google’s playbook. Start with limited ads on a free or cheap service, then open things up to a monetization team milk it.
That’s how they started. Small, tasteful, text only ads. It’s how they got all their market share. Everyone loved them because at the time the internet was a nightmare of pop up ads, toolbars, and seizure inducing flashing boxes.
It’s like when the big box stores come in with lower prices to drive smaller shops out of business then jack up their prices once they’re the only game in the area. It happens less now because they used those tactics years ago to push out Main Street, but you can still see it from time to time.
It’s a function of the OS. My Nvidia Shield TV has fucking ads on it.
Prostitution is legal in Nevada.
The Fitbit subscription also includes
Emergency Sharing, Fall Detection, Safety Check, and reach emergency services and contacts
So some safety features don’t work without it!
Wow!
The best kind of sleep.
This is ridiculous. I would understand if this is subsidized devices where you pay less in exchange for having ads. You already bought the device and suddenly it got shittier. Might as well get a free big brother tv with ads from Telly.
It always has been a device that is primary subsidized by ads and selling your behavioral data.
There is a reason why an Nvidia Shield or AppleTV costs a lot more. They’re making more from the price at the register than the ads and data sales.
Same for cheap TVs these days btw, their home page ads are why they’re able to sell you a decent quality 85" TV for under $2k.
On the Nvidia shield side, they’ve started adding more and more ads lately, which is completely unexcusable. Thankfully it’s not hard to use alternative launchers.
People in this thread said their Nvidia shield has ads too now. I guess costing a lot more doesn’t guarantee the device won’t be updated in the future to include ads.
As for apple tv, is it usable in a household that’s primarily use Android? Can you cast stuff from Android apps to it? Or is it only supports airplay from apple devices?
Nvidia didn’t push the ads. Nvidia got their pound. Google is pushing the ads onto the shield.
So, the price of the hardware is not an indication whether the device will have ads or not later down the line? Even if you spent your money on the top of the line models it’ll eventually got ads if it’s running Google TV OS?
Correct. GoogleTV is completely owned by Google. Nvidia has no say in what google pushes to the platform. If you don’t want Ads… stay away from google/android TV.
I own 3 shields (pre-ad-gate purchases). I was a huge advocate for it. It was a great device that did everything I wanted a tv console to do. I would not buy a new one. And will not buy a shield 2 if it has the same OS on it.
The best you can do is stop the upgrades… or use a custom launcher. But the OS itself is going to find a way to get ads because that’s what google programmed it to do.
It’s actually in Google’s best interest to do this anyway. Nvidia likely didn’t pay google anything to have the OS on the device. This is google’s way of extracting money out of you in this process.
I’m pretty sure OEMs pay Google for including Play Store in their device, and they still decided to show ads. My Chromecast with Google TV shows no ads at the moment, not sure if it’s due to using Adguard in my home network or if Google simply hasn’t roll out ads in my country yet.
https://www.alphr.com/google/1010053/google-introduces-licensing-costs-for-android-manufacturers/
That started in 2018. The Nvidia Shield is an older product than that contract/requirement. And may not even apply to non EU devices/contracts.
If you have a pi-hole or other way to block access to your network, I’ve found these useful to block:
androidtvwatsonfe-pa.googleapis.com
I almost completely stopped going to the movies once the pre-roll stuff was ads for cars, food, etc instead of just movie trailers.
The more inconvenient Google makes avoiding ads on their platforms and services, the less of Googles platforms and services I will use.
For now I have a third party launcher setup on my CCwGTV in my living room, but the Apple TV 4k I have in my bedroom sure is looking nice these days with how well it performs and how much less trouble it is to setup and reset should I need/want to do that.
Going the HTPC route is less desirable to me since services like Amazon and Netflix go out of their way to restrict resolutions offered to things like a Debian box running Firefox. I could use Windows and Edge, but that would mean hitching myself to another company that seems more interested in selling me to advertisers than selling things to me.
Might as well just get/make a home theater pc
I thought fast food TV adverts were illegal in the UK?
Google TV? What is that?
IDK if you’re being sarcastic, but it’s the Set-top/Ten Foot Interface version of Android that’s largely only used for Smart TVs and STBs.
Sounds like a product they’re gonna kill off soon.
pats his Apple TV good boy
Apple is not your friend.
Google is an advertising company. Apple is a hardware/software company. They have very different incentives from one another. Neither are my friend, but one’s entire business model runs on psychological manipulation, the other sells iPhones.
I like that even if Google does something I don’t like I can install my own launcher. Or buy a different device, apple is apple and you better be happy with what they want you to want.
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I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Apple uses a ton of psychological manipulation in order to sell those phones.
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No ads. Fast box. All the apps I need.
