- cross-posted to:
- piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- cross-posted to:
- piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Reddit beats film industry again, won’t have to reveal pirates’ IP addresses::Firms wanted seven years’ worth of IP address logs on users who discussed piracy.
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Discussing " “piracy” " (unauthorized copying) does not equate to being guilty of it: title aught to say “alleged”.
The film industry in this case wasn’t after the data to go after the individuals who made the posts but to use them as witnesses against their ISPs who did nothing in response to piracy complaints. The DMCA has a requirement for a repeat infringer policy and evidence that the ISPs knew about the piracy and that their users chose them or stayed with them because the ISP wouldn’t kick them off goes a long way to winning the case against the ISP. They were going after the deep pockets.
Nearly every ISP assigns IP addresses dynamically. So unless they’re using IPs from very close timespans, the raw IP addresses are effectively useless to identify repeat offenders.
Yes? But as the person you are responding to has mentioned, they’re not after the individuals, they’re after the “ISPs who did nothing in response to piracy complaints.”
Having the IP address of those users will reveal which ISP they are using.
Just run a traceroute or tracert command against any website and you can see for yourself how your connection initially goes through your ISP before branching out to the rest of the internet.
Fuck Reddit, 'cuz I’m over here now. (in the best Diceman voice I can muster)
Would a lemmy insurance stand up to such a request?
Or is this a case where from a privacy perspective, Lemmy is worse
I had this conversation with one of my instance’s mods about a month ago.
Essentially:
If provided with a court order, we could theoretically provide:
- Email address
- Record of all comments / posts made by the user
- Incoming/outgoing DMs for the user
- Voting activity made by that user
- Communities subscribed to
(I think that’s everything off the top of my head)
IP addresses are not logged in the db or linked to a user, but if the RCMP shows up with a warrant and says “We want all IP addresses that submitted a comment at 09:11:43am PST Jan 16 2024” then I’d be able to get that from the access logs. Access logs are only stored for 14 days and then purged, DB backups are taken daily and stored for 30 days.
Lemmy instances would probably have far fewer resources to fight with. But also more likely to fly under the radar so I don’t know overall.
Hopefully this information is not being retained so until industry players take notice it should be safe.
