Long term effect of not seriously holding this man accountable for Jan 6. He thinks he is untouchable.
Damn this must win the top prize for the category ‘aged like milk’.
I’ve been reading through histroy from the begining and I haven’t got that far yet but I’m glad they stopped him before he did anything bad. Anyway I just got to Nero becoming emperor what a loving son and kind man.
Until the asswipe, Dietrich Klagges, found a way to get The Little Fucking Austrian Corporal German citizenship through the Braunschweig State Parliament.
Until proven otherwise, he is.
And, unfortunately, he’s correct.
Well, based on extended measurements: He is.
Republicans stopped any kind of accountability and are not firing him now. They can stop him at any second.
The US is fucked.
yes we are
Always has been.
We should stop calling them “trump allies” and start calling them “trump axis.”
We already have a name for them, it’s the GOP. Grand Old Pedophiles
Gaslight, Obstruct, Project.
Things are crazy enough that the last term might need to be more like… ProjectPedoPhilia?
And that could double as a nickname for Project 2025!
That’s one hell of a sense of entitlement.
Rapist-level sense of entitlement.
If he’s literally fucked without consent, what makes people think he wouldn’t figuratively fuck the people collectively without it too?
He’s literally never seen accountability. The pedofile parasite class fails up
It’s also one hell of a casus belli.
To the surprise of no one
One that do-nothing Americans have done nothing but tacitly encourage.
Get off your asses, you fucking cowards. Though, this is like the thirtieth red line. You let all the others be crossed without lifting a finger- I have zero confidence you’ll start now.
Talk’s cheap. Send money instead.
Are you doing more?
Yes I moved all investment out of the USA and stopped buying american products as much as possible. Fuck USA and it’s Epstein class supporting citizens !
Good for you. I guess everyone in the US should stop buying groceries and also cash in their 401Ks if they have any…
I’m assuming you’re American, because it’s very on-brand for Americans to expect someone else to fix their shit for them while they sit by and do nothing (thereby making it everyone else’s problem)
You said:
One that do-nothing Americans have done nothing but tacitly encourage.
Get off your asses, you fucking cowards. Though, this is like the thirtieth red line.
So you don’t get to claim “on-brand american” exceptionalism “expecting someone else to fix their shit.”
You threw the first shots, I quipped back. This isn’t “Someone else needs to fix our problems,” this is “If you’re not doing anything to fix everybody’s problem, then shut the fuck up about all the people you think aren’t doing enough.” You have no moral superiority, so get off your fucking pedestal.
Plenty of USians are doing all they can to resist. Just because it isn’t enough doesn’t mean no one is trying. So why don’t you direct your anger at maga specifically, instead of all the powerless discontents who are doing everything they can despite the hopelessness…
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“Your country probably sucks”
Interesting how US liberals start sounding like MAGA when someone reminds them that good intentions on their own aren’t sufficient.
Respectfully, you didnt answer dude’s question.
What would you personally do if you were United Statesian (American)?
Yeah but him adding “your country probably sucks” was weird.
Imagine my surprise
this is what you get when you elect piss hitler. Next is annexation of greenland and after that likely ww3 if people continue to be apathetic.
He is fully entitled to a third, life-term in prison for being a traitor. I hear Epstein’s cell is empty.
I used to advocate for a life terms for the top MAGAs. That was after the first term, the Insurrection, and the stolen classified documents. After this second term, capital punishment is on the table.
They should have quit while they were ahead.
Comments like this are what keep getting me banned on Reddit, but I’ll keep saying it on every platform:
Pedophiles get the rope. Pedophile protectors can swing alongside them. Insurrectionists and traitors get the firing squad. ICE gets to bleed out slowly.
You know the other name for Pedophile Protectors?
Pedophiles.
I was honestly surprised when I heard the jan 6 people crying about how unfair it is that they got prison. Generally speaking, no matter who’s wrong or right, attacking the palace/capitol/whatever tends to end in death.
I got permabanned for REPEATING a comment that I had posted multiple times before without incident. Once Trump was inaugurated, however, I was immediately permabanned.
My comment said something like: “Trump and his henchmen are really lucky we live in such a forgiving country. In most countries, at most times in history, on the evening of a failed coup, the traitors would have been dragged out onto the front lawn of the White House, and publicly executed, every last one of them.”
I wasn’t saying we should do that, I was saying that they were lucky that we didn’t. It was a simple fact, but I was permabanned anyway.
Only thing he is entitled to is a prison cell from which he cannot escape
When will the American public use the guns they’ve been hording to protect themselves against tyranny, against the tyranny?
they dont see conservatives as tyrants. Conservatism is a team-based ideology. Those on the team have leave to break the law with impunity, and are even lauded for it. It only becomes a problem with progressive liberals try to do it, then it’s wrong and worthy of insurrection.
To Trump: Technically you’re NOT entitled to a third term, as you’re inelligible to run for a third term. Sincerely, all Americans
Y’all gotta make sure term length can’t be redefined
You’re going to end up with presidential term limits like copywrite law
article II, section 1, paragraph 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America:
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:
It’s not even in an amendment, it’s defined in the original text. No way he gets enough states together to ratify an amendment to increase his term length.
Maybe “anyone who’s President are only allowed two consecutive or non-consecutive terms with no way to run for an additional term”, perhaps?
The 22nd amendment of the United states constitution, fully ratified in 1951, begins as such:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
Term length is set to four years for the President and his VP in Article II, Section 1 of the constitution itself (original text) and has not been amended or altered.
Trump needs 38 state legislatures to ratify an amendment, he doesn’t and won’t ever have that.
Yeah, but you still have to make sure a “term” isn’t suddenly 50 years long by some mechanism
Four-year terms
To Trump:
TechnicallyConstitutionally, you’re NOT entitled to a third term, as you’re inelligible to run for a third term. Sincerely, all AmericansThx Chuck Schumer!
European here. Is a third term actually illegal/unconstitutional or is it “just” defacto illegal/unconstitutional?
It’s the 22nd Amendment
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once
Pretty unambiguous.
Extending his rein would mean he either Stops Elections, gets the constitution amended, or most insidious… just refuses to transfer power, and seeing if our military is actually complicit with the pedophile class against its own citizenry.
Jan 6 is going to completely embolden them to try again. Is there enough MAGA to make it happen again despite it all?
EDIT: extended rant
The wording on that second part confuses me but Canadian here so I’ve only ever voted in elections for local representation as we don’t vote for prime minister the Crown’s representative picks them. Does the vice president just get to serve the rest of the term without actually being elected? I honestly just assumed a second election was held and the vice president served in the interim.
The second part means that if you took over as President during someone else’s term (for example if you were VP when the President died and you took over) and served for two years or more of that term, you can only serve one more term. So however you become President, you can’t serve more than two terms.
What if he just changes the length of a term?
That’s a part of the Constitution itself, Article II, Section I, Clause I
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-2/section-1/
Not American, but yes. You can look at the wiki if Lyndon Johnson who became president after JFK was killed.
Thank you
I believe an amendment to the constitution forbids it, but I’m not 100% sure
Someone answered its in the 22nd ammendment
Please don’t downvote someone for being correct but unsure.
It’s unconstitutional…not that it’ll stop these fuckers
Can you die already
He needs some help…
So, is our military going to need to step up to ensure a fair election next year, and also prevent Trump from taking office again? That is, assuming he, A) lives that long, and B) somehow pulls this off. Isn’t that why they are required to swear an oath to the Constitution, and not the President? Does that actually hold any water?
Look, if the U.S. Military were going to uphold the Constitution he already wouldn’t be President anymore.
Eh. I mean he is clearly shitting all over norms, blatantly corrupt, most likely treasonous, and robbing the fucking treasury blind, but all of that stuff is Congress’s responsibility to hold him accountable and draw lines and they have failed.
I don’t know if you can point to any part of the constitution that he has clearly violated. But the two term limit is codified. The supreme clutter doesn’t need to weigh in, the stupidest motherfucker in the country can do the math to see it’s unconstitutional (they might not care, but they can see it).
If folks want to toss the constitution, great, they just tossed the basis of authority for the President, Congress, and the Supreme Court. Guess we get to writing a new one.
I hesitate to declare this is the line he won’t be allowed to cross, because he’s sailed over every other one. But I really think the entire system of government is shot if he does this. We would certainly be a failed state at that point, where right now we are kinda Schrödinger’s Failed State. We may already be, but we’ll have to measure it post Trump.
I mean he’s clearly broken the first amendment more than a few times by ordering the government to pressure organizations over their right to free speech.
Also, constitutional problems with his deportation bullshit. Which he’s been ordered not to do, and yet they’re still doing it.
It’s very important to make the distinction between Congress failing to hold him accountable and declining to. In the first case Congress is ineffective. In the second, and current situation, it is willfully inept. Big difference.
I’m getting tired of all these assholes calling Americans cowards for not rioting in the streets every day and erecting a guillotine on the ellipse! They tried that during the George Floyd fallout, and the right was quite successful in vilifying them. It was only the glaring racism of Trump’s first term that revitalized BLM. His second term has effectively quashed that as well, somehow.
The US population is effectively a hostage, and this started long before Trump. Their livlihoods are financially bound to their employment, which is precarious at best. I’ve said it elsewhere and I’ll say it many more times: US citizens, particularly the ones in the upper-middle class are going to have to be willing to die. It’s that simple. If the population “rises up” like all the internet idiots want them to, Trump will implement the Insurrection Act ASAP. The aforementioned willfully inept Congress is highly unlikely to stop him. That’s going to result in one or both of a lot of dead citizens or a civil war.
All of this brings me to the midterm elections. Americans are facing the shit sandwich of the current criminal and his willing accomplices in Congress, and the Democrats who:
- Aside from 2 weak funding fights, have refused to act as an opposition party in anywhere near the same manner as the GOP when they’re in the minority.
- Are largely funded by the same authoritarians friendly billionaires and tech bros.
- Are unlikely to behave like an opposition party even if the manage to win back both houses of Congress, which is not super likely.
I think a lot of Americans are hoping things improve after the midterms, and I hope they’re right. I don’t think its going to happen, but I think plenty of people are looking for a reason to not risk their livelihoods, or lives. And that’s what its going to be. This criminal has no care for anyone but himself. He has no compassion or empathy. He sees US citizens the same way the worst Kings and Emperors of old did: as expendable. If they get “uppity,” he will not lose a wink of sleep ordering the military, National Guard, ICE, police forces, or any armed body he can control to open fire on them. Whether they will or not is a massive question most rational people don’t want to see asked.
The US is effectively being run by a mad king, and whatever safeguards used to be in place for such a situation are either complicit, or ineffectual (ie, the courts). People are really hoping that a Dem “wave” in the midterms will somehow fix something. Like I said, I hope they’re right.
We are effectively a dictatorship right now and the only thing that can reverse that is if Trump fails to act fast enough or acts so fast he gets heavy pushback. This far they have been effective at letting the most right-wing elements dominate the media so by the time they do crazy shit the people have already sort of absorbed the idea and it doesn’t seem outlandish.
He can ignore the courts in the event that they act fast enough to matter. He controls the military and can simply blockade polling locations, cut off power, etc. He can at least fuck with an election to the point where the ordinary safeguards against vote fraud can’t be ensured. He has all the tools needed to end democracy here.
The question is whether enough people will be complicit. Speaker Johnson will just declare he hasn’t read the news until the coup is complete. But will none of the freedom-loving conservatives think twice about throwing away freedom? Epstein is creating cracks. It would be easy for Trump to fuck up and overplay his hand, but unfortunately he will win unless he makes an error.
But he also needs to move fairly fast. There is a lot of inertia in the way the system is built and if he moves too slowly, it’s game over for him (well it’s two years of playing defense). It takes time to replace everyone with sycophants.
I’m optimistic. I’m also 70 miles from Canada, if worse comes to worst.
US citizens, particularly the ones in the upper-middle class are going to have to be willing to die
I’m not some kind of super-patriot, but I’m a former soldier. I swore an oath to protect my country from enemies foreign and domestic, and that… weighs on me, despite how easy it would be to just enjoy old white guy status. I’m also old and out of shape and I have no illusions how it will end if it comes to that. But I’ve also lived a good life. If that’s the end to which I’m fated… we can only do what we can in the situation we find ourselves in. Sometimes there is no winning scenario, you just do what you must.
Are there more like me? I don’t know. My wife would let the country burn if it kept her family safe. I don’t know anyone else thinking about things (aloud) the way I do and maybe they will let the world burn, too. But I won’t. In 40 years I’ll be dead one way or another, and 40 years later my life won’t even be a memory. And the only thing that will exist of me is whatever has rippled out into the world from my actions. I won’t have the failure of America be my only enduring legacy. That said, there is time and runway before that becomes inevitable, and I have hope.
I keep getting amused by how for three years USians cried that Russians should’ve rioted and ousted Putin, and now for the past year “it’s complicated”.
Well, anyone saying Russians should vote Putin out aren’t paying attention. Their elections haven’t been legit since he rose to power. As for why they haven’t kicked him out, it actually is complicated.
So all that to say don’t fight it and let them do it ?
You can’t point to something he’s clearly violated? What? The most obvious and clear example is the emoluments clause, but it’s easy to add in the first and fourth amendments. (Preference given to Christianity, and search and seizure without probable cause, as examples.)
Let me clarify my point. Those are all abstract things that require Congress or the Supreme Court to step in and draw lines. We’ve had in god we trust as the national motto for decades. There is a gray area there that can be argued and low-engagement voters just see it as noise.
But everyone can count to three. Everyone knows you get two terms and no more. Everyone knows you have to win an election to be President. It is unequivocal. Inarguable. So I think it carries weight in a way that those other violations of the constitution have not.
I never meant to create ambiguity around his illegal actions, just draw attention to how this act would be distinct from the rest.
the stupidest motherfucker in the country can do the math to see it’s unconstitutional
It’s not at all unconstitutional for Trump to enjoy a third term as president. All the Constitution says is that he can’t be elected a third time. There’s nothing that says he cannot run as VP and then succeed into POTUS once Vance steps down.
Sounds like you’ve read Amendment 22:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
But you definitely haven’t read Amendment 12:
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
No, the bullshit technicality he’s trying to pull out of his ass is still unconstitutional.
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
You really think this is bulletproof?
Have Trump run for Speaker. Hell, have him appointed as secretary of agriculture and have the people above resign. Its really not that difficult when your constitution is held together with bubblegum and pinky promises.
There is nothing in the constitution that says he cant enjoy a third term.
That’s not true. If a vice president assumes the office, that still counts as a term even though he’s not elected. I also believe there is a stipulation that no one disqualified from holding the presidency can be VP, though idk what is spelled out and what is just interpretation.
dictators fear most is a strong military that can initate a coup de tat anytime, thats why almost all countries with a dictator have very weak militaries, but a strong well funded secret police state.
Explain ice bloated budget
they are part of that 'police state funding"
Sorry that was not a question. It was supposed to be “that explains”. Woops but thank you.
Well if we want to really go into constitutional interp, the military has no power to remove a sitting president.
But if elections do not occur a person doesn’t continue to be the president, additionally a 3rd term is banned by the constitution.
If Trump were to “cancel” elections, a power he doesn’t even have, the law is clear. He would still lose the presidency. It would then pass to the speaker of the house per the constitutional line of succession.
At that point the military would have a choice to make.
Of course these are big ifs, laws only matter if they are followed. And this scenario requires the law to be broken to even occur. Shits bad
The military literally takes an oath to uphold the Constitution.
Donald Trump is wiping his ass with the Constitution. There couldn’t be anything more Contritutional for the military to do.
I don’t remember a single line in the Constitution stating the military has the power to remove a sitting president.
At least the scenario I described was constitutional.
That’s the neat part about an oath to the Constitution, you can’t break it to save it. That would be outside of that very oath.
They’ve spent the last year removing opposition in the military
The military? Probably not…
But you might get a federal agency already cosplaying as a para-military group to overlook the election and make sure you’re voting correctly. 👍
The governor of every state has the right to call out that state’s National Guard in the event of emergencies, and it is my sincere hope the states start to do it pre-emptively, NOW, even via state legislation, so that the NG are already under orders to protect the polls by the time November rolls around.
Without the NG, he has nothing tested and true but ICE, and their numbers are shit compared to the National Guard.
ICE’s training is also nonexistent. The only thing they’re effective at is terrorizing and occasionally murdering unarmed civilians.
Does that actually hold any water?
Apparently not as they’re all having fun bombing Iran without congress’s approval.
military is for external threats, you don’t want them playing cop
Every single person in the military swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC.
Domestic enemies like Donald Trump pose a much greater threat to our country than any conventional combatant with a gun or missile - the military is already oath-bound to engage him the same way they do any other enemy.
The inaction from them so far doesn’t paint a very promising picture regarding their willingness to actually do what’s right to protect our country; but we also don’t need the entire military to unite against that traitor: we just need a single one of them with the right training to apply through skills.
Servicemen and women: please actually do your job.
you obviously have no idea what “do your job” means here… military are trained to kill, do you really want them to “do their job” in US streets?
you obviously have no idea what “do your job” means here…
Don’t conflate ‘doing their job’ with the misuse of force they’re famous for. We need them to do their actual job, not just blindly follow orders into a series of war crimes.
military are trained to kill, do you really want them to “do their job” in US streets?
Yes, contingent on those streets being populated by enemies of the US like Donald Trump / members of his regime / ICE.
you seem to be conflating military with police. you want them wantonly murdering Americans in the street? stfu lunatic.
Your maga is showing.
MAGA would love to see military in the streets murdering people, I’m the polar opposite of MAGA.
Police murder wantonly in our streets already, let’s just throw more gas on the pile and see what happens.
how much worse would it be with a larger, better armed force that has been explicitly trained to kill?
You’re sorta missing the point. Nobody is talking about having the military issuing parking tickets here.
It’s about Trump running for office, and Congress/the courts saying “no”.
Who does the military listen to? Do they obey Trump’s orders to enforce his will at polling places?
they are trained killers, you want them murdering Americans? fucking lunatics everywhere.
You’re just ignoring everything anyone is saying and repeating the same thing.
Repetition is truth for certain people.
good luck with your coup
Until you do. When shit hits the fan it generally comes down to which side the military sides with.
As an outsider. The big danger appears to be how your country has also armed your police and now customs people as if they’re military too. Things could start to get very messy very fast.
They could start getting nasty a year ago
The National Guard is domestic, and is often used in domestic emergencies.
Entitled? So the narccisist of narccisists is now also the Karen of karens.
Barack Obama has the chance to do something pretty funny here
Maybe he can go up on a debate stage and talk about how the security of Israel is vital to American interests in the region.
“Because Joe Biden cheated!”
“So what you’re saying is you deserve a term to replace the one you lost in 2020?”
“Yes!”
