First RCS now this, today has been wild
I’m a Linux guy and I don’t really care about Windows, but I’m glad to see this happening and every day I thank Europe for being the main entity fighting for regulation of big tech monopolies, because America is really failing.
EU is very much a mixed bag. On the one hand, they do this, on the other hand, they tried to ban P2P encryption and microtargetted religious and elderly in resisting countries, feeding them the classic “it’s for the children’s safety” lies.
Though we have to remind ourselves that it’s mainly the EU Commission who does this.
The Supreme Court spoke out against it from the very beginning, the Parliament voted against it, it’s really only the Commission who doesn’t want to understand that EU law applies to them, too.
Quite a few positions in there that need to be held by new people who understand the damn law.
they tried to ban P2P encryption
They recently enshrined it as an unalienable human right as a world first.
Its nuts that during the Obama admin, all anyone cared about was the threat of zero privacy. Now everyone in the US has surrendered to it, because our politicians have sold our digital privacy rights to the tech companies.
America is a huge corporation.
California is doing okay, all things considered
America is getting paid to do it.
Maybe the FCC is still resisting for now.America empowers these bozos
I’m one illness or accident from being financially ruined, what do you really expect me to do about it?
Start a revolution.
Hell has truly frozen over. I guarantee that uninstalling edge will break something else in Windows
It does.
It breaks URLs/URIs in OneNote. Its fixable, so it’s clearly the fault of the uninstaller.
The reg key for the default html handler is wiped.
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It won’t. System components / apps use the edge webview 2 runtime that is a separate component from the Edge browser itself.
As a Linux user, this is freaking funny.
Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11 and the issues with Linux!
Even better as a Windows 10 user
? Thanks for the heads up, not sure how it’s really relevant.
not sure how it’s really relevant.
Your original comment mentioned this…
Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11
I responded with the end of life date for Windows 10 to let you know that those are depending on staying on Windows 10 can only do so for a limited amount of time, and hence only have a limited time of avoiding issues with Windows 10. That’s the relevance.
You can say this about all software though? Linux also won’t be around forever… So it’s somewhat irrelevant.
You can say this about all software though? Linux also won’t be around forever… So it’s somewhat irrelevant.
First, we’re talking about OS’s, and not software in general. Please don’t use a debate tactic to move the goal posts.
Second, nope, you can’t, so it is relevant. Linux has always been here when other OSs have come and gone (OS/2 anyone?).
To your original comment…
Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11
Just to reiterate, Windows 10 has a shelf life that is very much shorter than Linux’s, so you won’t be a Windows 10 user for much longer.
Regardless of how you feel about this and/or Windows vs. Linux, you’ll need to plan for it.
Make the smart move, you’ll benefit more financially and otherwise for doing so.
Windows has always been free for me so it’s no big issue. But yes, as a current Windows 10 user my point still stands that the best of both worlds is using it IMO. Have the widest support for games and can easily remove any bloatware you want from it already.
You are the one who originally changed the goal posts about it being changed in 2 years time and that being an issue. I’ll worry about that in 2 years time - for all we know Microsoft will extend the support.
But also to your point, Linux is very young itself so you can’t expect it to always be around. Once it’s around for 100+ years sure, but I just don’t see that being a thing. There’ll come a time where it’s no longer relevant.
W10 also has Edge bundled as system software.
I was more poking fun at the whole Lemmy circlejerk that Linux is the most amazing OS ever built and can do anything without fault.
So apparently having consumer-friendly laws does in fact lead to better products. Cool.
Perhaps the USA and other countries should follow the EU’s good example on this.
But socialism! They’re all gonna be starving and homeless! Any day now…
USA politicians are paid for and if anything they will never do this in fact they will do the exact opposite and make it easier for corporations to exploit people.
AHOUT FUCKING TIME. Take edge and shove it so far up your data tracking sphincter of a face hole.
Can we please get these laws on a global level.
Well they’ll probably reinstall it with every update anyway.
They would get massive fines if they tried that.
I’m not disagreeing, but what entity would enforce those global laws?
I vote for angry mob with convenient access to an active volcano.
Who needs a volcano when woodchippers can park right in your driveway.
Remember to load them feet first kids!
Same way laws are enforced now? Each country passing it and the companies needing to comply to continue operations.
Why are they force to comply right now if the laws don’t work?
You’re missing the point.
The ICC only has power in countries that let them have power. If a given country doesn’t feel like doing that, the ICC has precisely zero recourse or ability to enforce.
What should citizens in countries like that (which may or may not be dictatorships, single-party states, theocracies, or some other restrictive, un-democratic, and/or xenophobic form of government) do?
La Haye International Court of Justice, of course.
And what happens when the country in question is one that doesn’t care that much about the ICC, and responds “make me”?
To wit: The United States has famously refused to subordinate itself to the ICC
Does Linux let you disable its system-embedded advertisements? Didn’t think so!
It does.
sudo pro config set apt_news=falseandsudo truncate -s0 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-esm-hook.confBut I feel sorry for you if you are still using Ubuntu at this point.
Why?
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Which flavor?
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You should still switch to Linux.
As an American, all I can say is thank you Europe for continuing to have sensible legislation that forces these companies to have decent policies worldwide if only to comply with EU laws. I only use Windows on my company provided laptop but just because I don’t need to worry about it personally doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t care about how it affects others.
We’re basically dependent on the EU and California to have any rights as consumers at all.
Don’t forget California’s emissions standards effectively forcing car manufacturers to make more efficient vehicles for the entire NA market!
Hey, 'Muricans, how come we need to pressure every company into compliance for you?
Do you really think any average citizen has any say in this whatsoever?
Yes. You’re a democracy, right? Right?
On paper yes. In reality…
Isn’t that the point of your guns? Why are all these less free states more free?
Nah, those are just so we can shoot nonwhite people and say we thought they had a gun
Nah. Those corps will still do it at home or sell it as PR at home.
Sorry, our country is currently on fire 😕
For $100,000 the US Congress will tell you!
Idk, how come we need to fund your wars?
Which war? Help me out here. Vietnam? Iraq? Korea? I’m lost here … Oh wait…
Hey, 'Peans, how come you think a country larger than your pseudo continent is a homogenous hivemind?
Erm… Larger by land mass? Yes. Larger by GDP? No. Larger by number of inhabitants? No. Larger by amount of vastly different cultures that somehow get stuff like this done whole very decidedly not being a hive mind? Also no.
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I bet this person is one of those “actually, I’m 1/8th Irish” people…
American moment
It is certainly more diverse lol
ThEre ArE no iMmIgRaNtS in EuRopE
No immigrants in Europe
Europe is full of muslims
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Firstly, no one said that.
Let me quote:
Lmfao you think europe is more culturally diverse than a country with thousands of cultures from around the world? Thats hilarious.
So yeah. That.
The rest of your comment is blatantly ignorant AND horridly racist, so I think I’ll just do is both a favor and ignore it.
Where in your quote does it say europe has no immigrants?
The majority of the immigrant population in 'Murica are from Europe.
40 years counts as quite a long time in american history i suppose
I live in the UK, and because of Brexit we won’t get this. Thanks Nigel Farage.
I expect that it’s because we’re not in the EU that measures like this can be passed there. Maybe in 10-20 years time we can rejoin an EU massively improved by our absence.
Not true. There has been big moment against the MS monoply by the EU, pre-Brexit. Truth is, the UK hasn’t been powerful enough to stop these large antitrust cases for a long time. Brexit or not.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp._v._Commission
Thank you Europe. Once again you prove yourself to be what we all aspire to be.
Europe is carrying us fr
Why yes Microsoft, I am totally a European in Europe right now…
VPN to Sweden, update Windows to the EEA version, profit?
I’m not holding my breath, but we can hope.
It 's wild to think that some people might VPN to the EU for basic rights.
Freedom!
You wouldn’t pirate basic human rights, would you?
Välkommen!
I’m moving to the EU.
With your username, you’d do great in the Netherlands
I’m considering going to Flanders instead. I actually made my username like that on purpose.
I don’t think people will like me based on my ethnic background alone, though.
What’s your ethnic background? Kardashian?
That’s hilarious.
But no, I’m actually Moroccan. I bet prisons in Western Europe are filled with those.
I know a few Moroccan people living in Europe. They’re doing alright. If you’re a decent person and are willing to learn about the culture that hosts you (without losing your roots, of course), you should do fine.
Duh, that’s what I plan on doing anyway. After all, it’s much easier to live in a different society if you’re already integrated into it.
Nice, Mr. van Lemmy!
All for a $12 a month subscription!
The sad thing is that this happens because someone forces them to comply and not out of principle.
Why would they though and out of which which principle? Microsoft’s principle is “generate as much profit as possible without antagonizing customers to much”. Microsoft is, at its core, a profit driven business and not a business driven by ethics.
So… It’s a business
Err basically yes. In my head there’s a difference between “business driven by profit” and “business driven by ethics”, but maybe that’s because English is not my first language.
