TLDR; go to Linux
Didn’t they say at one point that windows 10 would be the last windows version as they are switching to a rolling release model?
No they did not. An Engineer said it was the last Windows in the context of “the latest Version”. The press just ran with the wrong headline.
That was just the tech weenies with their ‘architecturally sound strategy’ or whatever, before the business side
beattalked some sense into them.Which MS didn’t deny until they announced they were working on Win 11.
Well, they actually always had an End-of-Life date slated for 2025. But yeah, it wasn’t clear, if that was there just in case, or if they never expected to go through with what they’d been telling people.
Even tho my pc can run windoes 11, still running linux on it.
Me too. Bought a HP laptop made sure it was AMD. It came with win11, wiped it and installed Linux as soon as I got home.
My PC has an NVIDIA card, will that be a problem?
I also have a NVIDIA card, and I use Linux with Wayland. It’s usable for sure! But people are honestly downplaying the issues a lot.
I’ve had a lot of bugs and issues that are pretty annoying, such as apps flickering, performance sometimes (rarely) falling off a cliff for seemingly no reason, the card underclocking itself sometimes when waking from sleep (which kills performance until you reboot), and worst of all, random kernel panics that force me to hit the reset button, losing any unsaved work and risking a filesystem corruption (because there’s no safe way to shutdown since everything is completely and utterly locked up).
I’ve reported these bugs, and most of them have actually been fixed in the latest driver versions! But the kernel panics still happen once in a while, and that’s not great.
So be warned! But don’t be scared off. All of these issues are infrequent. Most of the time, it works without issue, and games actually run really great!
If its an issue, run X11 for the next few years.
X11 environments freeze when I try to boot them unless I disable my second monitor for some reason. And it has terrible vsync flickering issues all the time, even when just scrolling through web pages and such. Also it doesn’t have multi-monitor DPI, which I need.
But other than that, yeah, it’s genuinely a lot more stable!
Sometimes the best thing to do to a Window is leave it closed, forever.
I can’t. I use AutoCAD in my side hustle…
[Serious question] Did Microsoft need to fundamentally change something, and that is why they back tracked on their Win10 evergreen promise? Or is this just a cash grab?
They started requiring the use of motherboards with a TPM. Which is compete and utter bullshit because you need to disable the chip to dual-boot, yet Windows 11 will run for several months at a time with the chip disabled before it complains and forces you to temporarily turn it back on again. So requiring it for “security” is just an excuse to force you to buy new hardware.
I’m sure that it’s just the marketing dept changing hands over time. Marketing teams are like a Scott’s Tots situation: they are just trying to say whatever makes the product numbers look good in the near term. Fulfilling on any promises is a future marketing team’s job.
“Of all the empty promises I have made, this one is by far the most generous”
- Michael Scott/Microsoft’s marketing team
Microsoft has done this with every windows they’ve made. After the support period is over, you can pay for additional for a few years to help you transition. This one is so loud because windows 11 was such a privacy bait and switch.
Windows 11 is basically Windows 10, internally it hasn’t changed names. They have to have an external trade name for it or people won’t realize they’re “behind.”
…can i reposition my taskbar?..no?..then it’s not the f*cking same…
I wish that the only problem I had with windows 11 was that I couldn’t reposition the taskbar.
While I’m absolutely for reusing old hardware and am doing it myself, keep in mind that the security landscape has changed. Old hardware might have security vulnerabilities which could be exploited by malware. Running an up to date OS is not enough to keep you secured.
Any examples of computers with this problem? I can’t think of any. Old BIOS versions maybe but I don’t know of any examples that don’t require physical access to the device.
Use Windows 11
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Please don’t, unless there is absolutely no other possible option.
You should use it over Windows 10 at this point. The timer on Windows 10 is ticking.
Just don’t upgrade?
I just retired a Windows 7 box this past summer, because it just worked until then.
I honestly get so sick of this cult on Lemmy. Your PC is running slow? Install Linux! Some company does something shitty? Try Linux! Sprained your ankle? Have you heard of Linux?
I have Linux installed, I still end up on Windows most of the time because I don’t have the time and patience to manually set up and configure every single thing I do on my PC, also, I like to play a lot of games and use a lot of programs that all become a choir to run if they even do on Linux.
I’m with the other guy you’re downvoting, I’m staying on 10.
Edit: I’m not going to respond to you all individually, a lot of really dumb shit has been said to me, but in particular I want to address the reccuring theme of my “being here” and “leaving”. I’m not here, I just browse All and see a ton of these posts. I don’t really subscribe to anything on Lemmy. Also, I don’t even hate Linux, I just hate your cult like mentality and the way you guys shoehorn it into every discussion, as stated previously, I have Linux installed and have used several different distros over the years.
Go ahead, also the !linuxsucks@lemmy.world community is this way for complaints.
W10 has gotten to a point to where it’s alright but not amazing (particularly because SSDs are more standard as OS drives, and can handle the constant read/writes Windows 10 does to it). Feel free to stay but we’ll still be here to support you, when you’re ready to dive in fully, when Microsoft inevitably leaves you behind in support.
W11 is a spyware riddled mess. People need to be made aware of alternatives so they think it’s not the only option when W10 support is dropped.
it is not easy because there are critical software that people used to work that are not available in Linux such as MS Excel, solidworks, Adobe Suites.
If people need Adobe software for “critical” use cases, then maybe Linux just isn’t for them? Why do we have to behave as though Linux needs to be a perfect glove fit for everyone for it to be a valid option? Lemmy is a reddit alternative. Its not for everyone and that’s fine. Same goes for Linux.
What irritates me most are people that are square pegs complaining they don’t fit in a round hole. Either choose to adapt or stick with the square hole and get over it.
Excel definitely has alternatives on Linux that are great, but there’s absolutely nothing even close to the Adobe Suite, no matter how hard people want to try and cope, nothing compares.
You make the excellent point that expressing enthusiasm for using Linux to solve problems is entirely inappropriate for an online Linux community.
Did you get lost and forget that this is a Linux community? Where it’s expected that people are pro-Linux?
If you like Windows, that’s fine, but I dunno what you expected from !linux@programming.dev
It’s pretty easy to not notice what community you’re in. I’m subscribed to this because I use Linux and am interested in it, but like JokeDeity I am not under the illusion that many people here are that it is really a viable alternative to Windows for anyone but a small minority for whom fixing bugs is a hobby.
I want my audio to work and my laptop to get more than 2 hours battery life and not hard reboot when it runs out of RAM.
On that last point my most recent attempt to work around the issue was by massively increasing swap. I am a professional programmer with 30 years experience. I’ve been using Linux for 25 years. Increasing swap space was difficult for me.
On Windows it’s a slider in a GUI. Just… stop pretending that Linux is on the same level, please.
You never really jumped in both feet, if you really make the switch you only used open source software that runs native on Linux, also you start programming instead of playing games.
