• gullible@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    We bred dogs specifically to love people and to be expressive in an innately human way, so it feels wrong to kill them. Cows, pigs, chickens, sheep, etc. were bred for food. There’s less betrayal if the idea was always to eat them.

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      Cows are not bred only to supply meat, they supply labor to till fields and provide manure for crops. The dog breeds used for food in those regions are bred specifically for food, no different than current domesticated animals. Its the lack of that understanding and diminishing the work that other domesticated animals do that cause the problem. Hell there are plenty of studies that show pigs are smarter than dogs, we use them for organ transplants and stuff. You can legitamately argue pigs are more innately human than dogs are.

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        Pigs don’t have expressive faces, built-in emotional understanding of humans, and, most importantly, infinite affection. Horses supplanted cows as farm… workhorses, which severely altered our perception of them in the west. It’s a marketing issue.

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          Pigs don’t have expressive faces,

          Yes, they do.

          built-in emotional understanding of humans

          No, they don’t.

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            I think some dogs do but not all breeds. Some dogs are dumb as shit but still awesome in their own way.

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          Emphasis on the west. In eastern culture, cows are still used (e.g cows in india are considered sacred). Hell, an example of a cow that was originally not bred for consumption is the wagyu, a highly sought after piece of meat. But of course, as westerners, apparently we disregard that fact…

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            In 1868, Englishman Edward Charles Kirby established the first slaughterhouse in Kobe, and in 1869, a sukiyaki restaurant called “Gekka-tei” opened in Kobe.

            TIL

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      2 years ago

      I really appreciate your usage of the word “betrayal” here, I think it’s incredibly apt.
      but do you think this makes any moral difference? or that it would matter at all to the being having their throat slashed or thrashing in a gas chamber?

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        Not really, I’m vegetarian out of preference but I get where people come from. I’ve offered the truth of the matter, irrespective of my feelings on it.

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      What does betrayal have to do with the morality of killing something?

      It’s either right or wrong to kill something if you don’t have to for survival.

      If you think killing dogs is wrong, then killing cows or pigs should also be wrong.

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        2 years ago

        I don’t think it’s unfair to say there’s a spectrum to this. I’m not going to feel as bad with an ant dying compared to a dog

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          Not sure that an ant is relevant to this discussion, since it’s not really similar to a cow, pig, dog, cat, etc.

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        2 years ago

        You’re talking about morality and I’m considering people’s feelings, however convoluted they might be. It’s not a moral issue, it’s marketing.

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      It’s more. Your farm goat is your friend. That wild goat you caught as a baby will be more like a wolf than a dog. The point is really that we didn’t just breed cows to be fatter than previous cows, but also to be nicer to humans just like dogs.