Most of those fears aren’t completely valid anymore.
You can park it outside.
winter gets you less mileage but not the end of the world, some of the fastest growing EV markets are cold countries.
You might be surprised, a lot of grocery stores and even workplaces have some basic charging capabilities. Plus you can charge at home.
If you have an electric dryer you can charge your car overnight, just don’t do both together.
Batteries will outlast any lease, if you’re looking to get 10-15 years out of a car that would be understandable, but if you’re leasing it won’t be a problem.
I live in a small town in a rural area. There is one charger in my town, but it’s at the county building and is for county employees. There are chargers at grocery stores, but those are 50kms away.
My house still has a fuse box, I don’t have any available holes. The whole system needs changed and I will, but that’s $10k and that’s not a very exciting purchase.
I guess I didn’t mean lease, I meant financing. I definitely hope to have a vehicle at least 7 years. I just upgraded my paid off corolla because we needed all wheel drive vehicle for our winters here. Otherwise I’d have kept it till it died in 20 years (corolla joke). The electric car would have to be comparable to that and I’m not sold that they will be. We bought one of the few cars available to us without a multi month wait.
I’m sure many of my fears are unjustified, but I require further evidence. I’m not an early adopter type.
It saddens me when I read things like this because you’re either a troll, or very misinformed on EVs. I’m a diehard gasoline boosted 500hp+ kind of guy but I’m not an idiot. Electric is the future and there is nothing wrong with it. I’m not going to go out and buy one (mostly because I’m not buying anything new that reports how I drive or where I’m going) but in the future I will for sure being doing electric swaps into my hotrods.
Wait why would you want a charger to be close to your house? Wouldn’t you want them to be far away (since it will presumably start every morning fully charged)?
Charging off a standard wall plug is perfectly adequate for most people. I never leave my house without out a full battery and I’m just plugged into a standard 110 outlet
How long is a lease? 3 years? 4 years? My little Corsa has 95% capacity left after 3 years and 40000km.
60 amps, three phases that’s, what, 72kW at 400V - that’s more than enough. My cars charge at 11kW/3phases. I’ve got 63A service and I can charge both cars, run the heatpump, have the stove going and still have amps to spare.
You must not be familiar with North American power systems. I would bet the op had single phase service providing 220 or 240 volt service. 60 amp service is outdated, 100 amp is basically the minimum and 200 amp is common.
You got it. I’m not really familiar with electrical stuff, but I kinda think my service is 110? My dryer and water heater are on separate 2 fuse circuits. I think it was upgrade from aluminum wire in the 70’s. I have the “good” paper wrapped wire.
As another cool aside about my house, the sewer line was made of cardboard
You must not be familiar with North American power systems.
I would bet the op had single phase service providing 220 or 240 volt service.
Oh, I see. Yeah, well, okay, that’s basically nothing. Seems like the country isn’t really on a good path for electrifying things, then. How do they use any large electric motors at home?
Living in the boonies - I could get 3 phase, 400V, 100A for 800€, that’s 120kW. Yes, we’re paying a lot per kWh but the grid quality is okay-ish.
The guy who replied is correct. My house was built in the 50’s it was upgraded from 30amp service and the aluminum wire was replaced with a “state of the art” 60amp fuse panel and paper wrapped wire at some point. Not that much of an upgrade. To use large motors at home you put a penny under the fuse /s. I also don’t have any space left in the panel so…
I misspoke saying lease, I meant finance. I like to keep things as long as possible.
I don’t use a block heater. I don’t have a heated driveway. I don’t have heaters on my eaves. I don’t heat a bird bath. I don’t have exterior flood lights. If I can help it I don’t run heaters outside where I am not. I said in the OP I don’t like the thought of throwing electricity into the wind.
If you don’t live where you aren’t using a block heater, you don’t get cold enough to worry about ev usage. But also, plugging an ev in over night is generally how you’ll charge it. Unless you live in an apartment complex that can’t do that. So you’re not “throwing electricity into the wind”
I would like to buy an electric car but I will not because;
Most of those fears aren’t completely valid anymore.
I live in a small town in a rural area. There is one charger in my town, but it’s at the county building and is for county employees. There are chargers at grocery stores, but those are 50kms away.
My house still has a fuse box, I don’t have any available holes. The whole system needs changed and I will, but that’s $10k and that’s not a very exciting purchase.
I guess I didn’t mean lease, I meant financing. I definitely hope to have a vehicle at least 7 years. I just upgraded my paid off corolla because we needed all wheel drive vehicle for our winters here. Otherwise I’d have kept it till it died in 20 years (corolla joke). The electric car would have to be comparable to that and I’m not sold that they will be. We bought one of the few cars available to us without a multi month wait.
I’m sure many of my fears are unjustified, but I require further evidence. I’m not an early adopter type.
It saddens me when I read things like this because you’re either a troll, or very misinformed on EVs. I’m a diehard gasoline boosted 500hp+ kind of guy but I’m not an idiot. Electric is the future and there is nothing wrong with it. I’m not going to go out and buy one (mostly because I’m not buying anything new that reports how I drive or where I’m going) but in the future I will for sure being doing electric swaps into my hotrods.
Wait why would you want a charger to be close to your house? Wouldn’t you want them to be far away (since it will presumably start every morning fully charged)?
How will it be fully charged at home in the morning if the last time I charged it was a minimum of 50kms away?
Charging off a standard wall plug is perfectly adequate for most people. I never leave my house without out a full battery and I’m just plugged into a standard 110 outlet
How long is a lease? 3 years? 4 years? My little Corsa has 95% capacity left after 3 years and 40000km.
60 amps, three phases that’s, what, 72kW at 400V - that’s more than enough. My cars charge at 11kW/3phases. I’ve got 63A service and I can charge both cars, run the heatpump, have the stove going and still have amps to spare.
You must not be familiar with North American power systems. I would bet the op had single phase service providing 220 or 240 volt service. 60 amp service is outdated, 100 amp is basically the minimum and 200 amp is common.
You got it. I’m not really familiar with electrical stuff, but I kinda think my service is 110? My dryer and water heater are on separate 2 fuse circuits. I think it was upgrade from aluminum wire in the 70’s. I have the “good” paper wrapped wire.
As another cool aside about my house, the sewer line was made of cardboard
Oh, I see. Yeah, well, okay, that’s basically nothing. Seems like the country isn’t really on a good path for electrifying things, then. How do they use any large electric motors at home?
Living in the boonies - I could get 3 phase, 400V, 100A for 800€, that’s 120kW. Yes, we’re paying a lot per kWh but the grid quality is okay-ish.
The guy who replied is correct. My house was built in the 50’s it was upgraded from 30amp service and the aluminum wire was replaced with a “state of the art” 60amp fuse panel and paper wrapped wire at some point. Not that much of an upgrade. To use large motors at home you put a penny under the fuse /s. I also don’t have any space left in the panel so…
I misspoke saying lease, I meant finance. I like to keep things as long as possible.
Block heaters are a thing for decades and no one worries about needing to keep the oil warm. Don’t see how warming a battery is any different.
I don’t use a block heater. I don’t have a heated driveway. I don’t have heaters on my eaves. I don’t heat a bird bath. I don’t have exterior flood lights. If I can help it I don’t run heaters outside where I am not. I said in the OP I don’t like the thought of throwing electricity into the wind.
If you don’t live where you aren’t using a block heater, you don’t get cold enough to worry about ev usage. But also, plugging an ev in over night is generally how you’ll charge it. Unless you live in an apartment complex that can’t do that. So you’re not “throwing electricity into the wind”
Most ev’s dont charge with more than 7 kwh and habe active battery themp controll.
Dont worry your phone is not blowing up in under 3 years and those batterys get mistreatet.
I also highly recomend lobing your employer for a charger at the workplace.
My boss is a total asshole. I’m self employed.