Bits where he criticized Donald Trump and the film industry were cut.
  • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
    22·
    2 years ago

    They attempted to censor him, by removing part of his speech from the teleprompter. He got his phone out and read it from there instead.

        • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
          9·
          2 years ago

          Actually it’s the opposite. They’re claiming he hadn’t received/approved the newest draft, which is an insane justification when you think about it, like ‘we didn’t realize that he hadn’t approved the changes the we independently made to his speech’

  • kirklennon@kbin.social
    61·
    2 years ago

    Variety reports that De Niro’s accusations regarding censorship have been denied by “a source close to the film,” who instead claims the incident was a miscommunication. The insider alleges that multiple versions of the speech had been created, and that both Apple and the filmmakers were unaware that De Niro had not approved the final draft. We have reached out to Apple and the Gotham Film & Media Institute to clarify the situation.

    I can’t rule out a dumb employee trying to make a unilateral change to a speech almost nobody would have known about otherwise, but a miscommunication over multiple drafts certainly strikes me as highly plausible, and I can also understand why the filmmakers would have been encouraging a draft that was more focused on the film than tangential contemporary political issues.

      • kirklennon@kbin.social
        01·
        2 years ago

        Makes much more sense to me that DeNiro was telling the truth

        Nobody ever said he was lying. He made a statement, live, based on his current understanding of the situation. Later, someone else offered a perfectly plausible explanation.

        • long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          it’s too much of a coincidence that the removed parts were the most controversial ones. that’s a pretty weird change for allegedly an “older draft version”.

          additionally, it’s not the first time Apple has removed controversial topics in a short period of time. I might not agree with DeNiro at all, but I’m convinced that those parts of the script were removed purposefully by Apple.

        • Haha@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          It’s not perfectly plausible when it happened earlier lmao keep shilling

    • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      0·
      2 years ago

      Regardless of whose idea it was to cut the speech, the fact remains that someone made a censored draft, the organizers received it along with the full speech, and the censored version ended on the prompter without De Niro’s consent. Perhaps Apple wasn’t responsible, but then who?

      • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Or a former version of his speech didnt have any politics in it because it was a draft, and he passed it to someone for review on what he had already written.

        Then that copy somehow got mistaken for a, if not the, final draft.

        I do that when writing. I ask for review on what I have written down, even knowing that I have more to add but just dont know how to start putting to words yet.

      • kirklennon@kbin.social
        0·
        2 years ago

        someone made a censored draft

        I don’t think we can quite say that. Speeches usually have a time limit. It would be perfectly normal to write more than you can actually say and then start cutting back or rewording parts to make it shorter. That’s not “censorship.” If you’re cutting down an acceptance speech, the more off-topic stuff is naturally going to be looked at critically. I’d expect there to be multiple drafts with different portions cut out so it’s not so much as a “full” verses “cut” speech but which version of cuts was the final version.

        • UsernameHere@lemmings.worldBanned from communityEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          I don’t buy it. Those decisions always include the actor for obvious reasons.

          “Oops! We aCciDeNtLy cut out the part that might cause insurrection supporters to not watch our award show! Aww shucks our mistake increased our ratings.”

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    4·
    2 years ago

    Shame on Apple and the production company. Deniro is a badass for overriding and calling them out.

    • long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      yeah, I do not agree with a lot of the guy’s opinions, but I respect that instead of playing ball with Apple he took his phone and read his own speech.

  • ⓝⓞ🅞🅝🅔@lemmy.caEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    And now that I’ve seen this article, I’d like to see a clip of what he said when I normally wouldn’t give a rat’s bottom about such broadcasts. Thanks Apple!

  • criticalthreshold@lemmy.worldEnglish
    76·
    2 years ago

    Ad hominem attacks are lazy logical fallacies that show the utter stupidity of people.

    The fuck does this old fart’s vax position have to do with his allegation of Apple cutting out the Trump rant of his speech?

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Couple key differences:

        1. anti-vax is a choice, made out of ignorance and easily renounced.
        2. If someone tells me they are an anti-vaxxer there are a lot of things I know about them, and none of them are good
  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    01·
    2 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Robert De Niro slammed Apple and the Gotham Film & Media Institute this week after claiming his speech for the Gotham Awards had been censored — allegedly by an Apple employee just minutes before the show started, according to Variety’s sources — to remove criticisms about Donald Trump and the entertainment industry.

    The actor appeared onstage at the ceremony on Monday night for the presentation of the Gotham Historical Icon and Creator Tribute to Martin Scorsese’s Killers Of The Flower Moon, a film distributed by Apple that focuses on a series of murders targeting the Osage people in Oklahoma during the 1920s after oil was discovered on tribal land.

    According to Variety’s sources, an edited version of the speech was uploaded to the teleprompter just minutes before the Gotham Awards kicked off, by a woman who identified herself as an Apple employee, in response to “feedback from the filmmaking team that wanted the actor’s remarks to be centered on the movie.” Variety also reports that the teleprompter company was emailed a revised speech script by two Apple employees that evening, and that De Niro was not aware of the changes.

    Variety reports that De Niro’s accusations regarding censorship have been denied by “a source close to the film,” who instead claims the incident was a miscommunication.

    The insider alleges that multiple versions of the speech had been created, and that both Apple and the filmmakers were unaware that De Niro had not approved the final draft.

    De Niro’s accusations of censorship come just weeks after reports that Jon Stewart’s show on Apple TV Plus, The Problem With Jon Stewart, was ended due to “creative differences” related to topics on China and artificial intelligence.

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