The Biden administration has announced a proposal to “strengthen its Lead and Copper Rule that would require water systems to replace lead service lines within 10 years,” the White House said in a statement on Thursday.
According to the White House, more than 9.2 million American households connect to water through lead pipes and lead service lines and, due to “decades of inequitable infrastructure development and underinvestment,” many Americans are at risk of lead exposure.
“There is no safe level of exposure to lead, particularly for children, and eliminating lead exposure from the air, water, and homes is a crucial component of the Biden-Harris Administration’s historic commitment to advancing environmental justice,” the Biden administration said.
While we’re digging shit up, lets lay some fiber.
AT&T after taking my tax money: “hahahahahahahahahahahahahah no”
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I’ve long wondered if lead exposure accounts for their behaviors over the past couple decades. Lead that accumulates in the bones over one’s lifetime leaches out into the bloodstream when one becomes elderly, like calcium does with osteoporosis. Cognitive issues and rage are associated with lead exposure.
I’m not sure about that, I’ve had lead poisoning for thirty years and I’m still not stupid enough to support those assholes.
It’s funny, because the hexbears basically have the same “Biden bad” reaction. Almost like there’s a weird amount of ideological overlap.
Not a hexbear, but the leftist “Biden bad” narrative wouldn’t demonize investing in infrastructure, they would call out shit like unconditional support for Israel or failing to meaningfully improve social safety nets via Medicare for All, or other such measures. Biden is a Liberal, at the end of the day, and that’s not going to please any leftist except by not being a fascist.
Never underestimate the effects of extremism on rational conclusions
I ate pieces of shit covered in lead for breakfast my whole life, and look at me… I’m doing just fine.
- Deranged Lunatic
Lead makes Republicans
Those that purposely destroyed the water systems with cuts in Flint Michigan should have been quartered in a public square.
Sadly in reality they probably received bonuses and perks.
Those that caused the switchover to Flint River water that resulted in the disaster surfacing definitely should be drawn and quartered, no question. Snyder and his city managers put all this nonsense in motion and should be charged with crimes against humanity.
However, it’s also a systemic, deeper problem in the US. Flint’s pipes didn’t suddenly become terrible overnight. The entire water system was in disrepair for decades. The only reason it didn’t surface sooner was they were regulating the water going through it to hold the demons at bay. Even when it was working, pre-disaster, the water was safe to drink, but horrible from a drinking water perspective.
The whole system was a giant leaking piece of junk that basically kept working due to positive pressure pushing contaminants out of the leaks, and the pH level being maintained so the old pipes wouldn’t start leeching into the water. That a GM engine plant had to switch water sources because the water was damaging the engine construction is just mind-blowing. Human bodies are vastly more delicate than engines.
Flint’s not the only one either, many American cities with aging water infrastructure that wasn’t properly maintained all have/had similar problems.
We are such a short-sighted country that seems to so quickly forget that our infrastructure requires constant maintenance and updates. I really think the generation that got to live among all the New Deal and post WWII infrastructure just thought they lived in a magic time where all this stuff just exists forever, rather than realizing it takes stewardship to keep things “the way they are”. Now, we on the back end, reap the rewards of everything falling apart at the same time, faster than we can fix it.
I think some have been charged with crimes related to the Flint crisis, but it hasn’t been very fruitful:
only one minor conviction has been obtained, and all other charges have been dismissed or dropped
Nine Michigan Leaders Face Charges in Water Crisis That Roiled Flint
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/us/rick-snyder-flint-water-charges.html2 ex-health officials charged with manslaughter in Flint
https://fox40.com/news/national-and-world-news/2-ex-health-officials-charged-with-manslaughter-in-flint/Two former Flint emergency managers charged with water crisis crimes https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2016/12/former_state_emergency_manager.html
I know people were charged for their involvement in the crisis but from what I can tell they got out of the charges. I think there may be a case that is still pending, though
This is one of those times I’m like why are mass shootings always schools and bars and not assholes like the people responsible for this
Wasn’t it a theme there for awhile to go Postal? I can’t recall if that was about co-workers, management, the general public or all of the above?
This is a hugely underrated win imo. We have no idea the damage lead is doing to us, we can only guess the damage in health problems is in the billions. Politicians usually don’t give a shit about this so for Biden to do so is a big outstretched hand and big achievement
Republican might loose a lot of it’s voter base
It’s a win, but not really underrated. We can test for lead easily in both the water supply and people, there are some isolated areas it’s bad, but it’s not a problem in most areas.
Huzzah! Another great move by the Biden administration that will probably be overlooked by most commenters, like his labor board appointments that led to the recent union resurgence were.
To be fair, a banana now costs $0.67 when it was $0.54 under Trump
How many Biden fellators does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Hooray Biden for doing less than the absolute bare minimum!!!
Do you do literally anything besides endless serial shitposting about how much you hate Joe Biden? It’s incessant. Get a grip, fucking weirdo.
Those who smelled it dealt it.
More than 2/3rds of democrats don’t think he should run. I have a feeling your head is in your ass
Fuck you and your made-up bullshit figures.
So you are denying your own farts don’t stink?
Edit: I was talking about policy not football
He’s doing a great job. He’s just too fucking old to go another four years.
But I’m certainly not going to pass on Biden to vote for a dumbass tyrant that’s just about as old.
I’ll look for someone to vote for in the primary, if there is one.
Better than selling national secrets to our enemies
This guy has lead pipes.
Just another day on which I as a European am absolutely shocked how shit the quality of life in the US is.
Europe has lead pipes as well, buddy.
They’re perfectly safe as long as idiots don’t change the water supply to one that’s more acidic without buffering the pH.
Hell, England and Wales have nearly 3x more than the entire US.
That isn’t perfectly safe. That is normally safe, but once in a while something will go wrong and they become unsafe.
This has been often speculated as being the cause of the “Stupid American” stereotype. Good decision
That seems implausible. Lead pipes are common pretty much everywhere and it’s usually not a problem due to a coating on the pipes.
It’s just an issue in the US because there’s been a few notable examples of that coating being damaged and causing contamination, which creates political will to do the replacements that everyone is doing at an accelerated pace.
Most places, in the US or not, just replace them during routine maintenance. The UK and Germany should have theirs replaced by 2100, if nothing comes up to make them accelerate the process.
The US hasn’t been good about replacing pipes in general, there’s even a good amount that aren’t even documented in some areas.
Didn’t they pull out some wooden pipes somewhere in the US within the last couple years? I remember seeing an article about it.
hydrofluorosilicic acid is the cause of all the problems with lead pipes. It is being used as a replacement for standard fluoride
This year Germany passed a law to completely remove all lead pipes until January 2026.
But the allowed levels of lead in drinking water have already been lowered so much since 2013 (10 microgram per liter, this has been lowered again since to 5 microgram per liter) that any water that passed through a lead pipe cannot realistically fulfill the requirements, thus there are only extremely few households left with any lead in their pipes.
Coating the pipes is not a way out of this, since Germany has expressly forbidden this as a way to renovate.
Oh, I’m not saying we should coat the pipes, I’m saying that it’s not a massive continuous crisis is because there is a coating on the pipes created by the water treatment.
We definitely should replace all of them because that coating is too easy to damage and there’s no reason to take the risk, but “lead pipes” is unlikely to be a US specific health issue like was originally insinuated.
but “lead pipes” is unlikely to be a US specific health issue like was originally insinuated
With this I agree wholeheartedly, the biggest factors for differences between the rest of the developed world and the US, including USians being considered more agressive, less intelligent, less patient and with less empathy are definitely located in different fields.
Imho. culturally religiosity, difference in education, worldlyness and levels of societal cohesion are the biggest factors, along with good old prejudice against the militarily superior.
We’ll see how dumb Americans are in a generation or two. Hopefully this’ll fix it!
I’ve seen leaded gasoline cited, but not lead pipes.
There was lead in so many products in our parent’s generation, not just the water pipes and gasoline. Cosmetics and paint are also two notable ones that, combined with all the other sources of lead, increased exposure to hazardous levels.
Humans are just stupid, not just Americans.
Key word is “proposal”, which will be used for the election. But will not be actually fought for, or if somehow makes it through will likely be gutted to give corps money and just retain the name. I am thinking it would be stopped just like all the bullshit was on technicalities that we never hear of except when shit that would help people is brought forward (the shit involving that stupid-ass parliamentarian a few years ago being a great example). And the mass public of liberals or otherwise the “um I really don’t care about politics” folks will just remember it was mentioned at some point and assume it was done. Just another failure of our larger problem of mass amnesia. Similar to how so many idiots voted for Biden over Bernie because they thought they both were for Medicare for All, since Biden had stated multiple times that “healthcare is a right”. Fuck him, his party, the Republicans, corpo media, and especially the capitalist ruling class that owns both parties!
a big bold plan to solve a major american problem?
Must be election season.
TBF Biden has passed a ton of great stuff outside of election season.
Some of the very first things he did as POTUS was call for the replacement of the Anti-environmental EPA director and the ICE director, as well as reinstate protections for streams and waterways from runoff and the reimplementation of Criminal-Only ICE focus and 72 hour holding limitations.
The SAVE Act that is reducing Student Loan Payments as low as $0 a month
The Inflation Reduction Act which does everything from lower deficit and climate impact to lowering price of goods
Full support both through supplies and endorsing wider worldwide support for Ukraine against the Russian Invasion
Signed the 2022 update to the Respect for Marriage Act which includes protections for homosexual and transgender couples against discrimination in the search for employment or housing, which previously only force states to recognize interracial marriages from out of state
The massive infrastructure bill with little to no concessions, also avoiding a federal government shutdown
Bipartisan Safer Communities Act helps remove firearms from mentally unstable or convict individuals who likely obtained their firearms after previous president Trump removed the relevant background checks
Called for federal entities to review Marijauna’s place as a scheduled drug, and pardoned all previous small offences for the substance
So, not to say absolutely everything he’s done was only good, just that his policies have only slowed down or become worse near the end rather than what you implied.
"An initial estimate is that 25% of domestic dwellings in the EU have a lead pipe, either as a connection to the water main, or as part of the internal plumbing, or both, potentially putting 120 million people at risk from lead in drinking water within the EU. "
Fuck yes. We have needed to get rid of that shit for awhile. I’d also love it if we converted over to metric at the same time, but I don’t think that’s as likely…
Why suit man take my sweet water?
Can you imagine if this turns out to be the thing that was needed to calm you lot down?
In a major new study (conducted decades ago) it turns out that Lead in your water/food/air is bad for you
People used to use leaded gas in cars, planes…hell…maybe even trains. Naturally, this was bad for you. Some planes still use leaded gas!
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This is great. 10 years seems long, but it is a huge project. Glad it will be started soon.
Edit: Aw shit. This is only a proposal. At least we are talking about it.
