Use of authority is driven as reaction, not action, typically. The United States putting down the Confederate rebellion was a good use of authority, but was driven because of the Confederate rebellion. The extent authority is applied depends on the circumstances a country finds itself in, in Socialist countries we often see invasion and active subterfuge from Capitalist countries seeking to undermine the system, and Capitalists are oppressed. This is painted as “authoritarian” by Capitalist dominated media.
You don’t reduce the use of authority by saying “no, don’t do that,” you do so by abolishing the conditions that give rise to its necessity. It is much better for the working class to weild its authority than the Capitalist class.
I don’t support something as vague as “authoritarianism.” I support the working class being in control of the state and using it in its own interests, depending on the circumstances it finds itself in, minimizing excess wherever possible.
I support the proletariat using authoritarian measures, for any time we don’t our enemies laugh at us.
When General Krasnov organized his counter-revolutionary campaign against Leningrad and fell into our hands, we could at least have kept him prisoner, according to the rules of war. Indeed, we ought to have shot him. But we released him on his “word of honor.” And what happened? It soon became clear that such mildness only helped to undermine the strength of the Soviet Government. We made a mistake in displaying such mildness towards enemies of the working class. To have persisted in that mistake would have been a crime against the working class and a betrayal of its interests. That soon became guile apparent. Very soon it became evident that the milder our attitude towards our enemies, the greater their resistance
Read that interview a few weeks ago, actually! And he’s correct, trying to go easy on an enemy that will thoroughly destroy you with the most brutal of measures possible is a luxury Socialists cannot afford to take if we want to build a world without such brutality to begin with.
It’s been said before, but you can be “authoritarian” like the Soviets and give people healthcare, housing, food, etc. or you can be a good christian against “authoritarianism” and give people a military dictatorship.
Yep, conversations around “authoritarianism” usually wind back down to just disapproving going against the status quo, regardless of how popular the measures in place are within their countries. The CPC has an over 90% approval rate, and people call it “authoritarian” functionally because businesses are heavily restricted by the state.
My comment was more about how “authoritarian” discourse is meaningless, and more about perspective than anything else. From my point of view, the US Empire’s use of authority is far worse and more destructive than, say, Cuba’s, yet Capitalist media paints the US Empire as a bastion of freedom and Cuba as an Orwellian nightmare.
I think you’re turning your disillusionment towards the Capitalist framework into nihilism about analysis of structures. Marxists frequently posit structures like the Soviet system, which feature both local, tight-knit councils and larger councils made up of representatives of these councils, resulting in a comprehensively democratic system. Without these higher rungs, large-scale planning can’t exist effectively, which means a fall in the level of production and a decrease in the ability of humanity to satisfy its needs.
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Use of authority is driven as reaction, not action, typically. The United States putting down the Confederate rebellion was a good use of authority, but was driven because of the Confederate rebellion. The extent authority is applied depends on the circumstances a country finds itself in, in Socialist countries we often see invasion and active subterfuge from Capitalist countries seeking to undermine the system, and Capitalists are oppressed. This is painted as “authoritarian” by Capitalist dominated media.
You don’t reduce the use of authority by saying “no, don’t do that,” you do so by abolishing the conditions that give rise to its necessity. It is much better for the working class to weild its authority than the Capitalist class.
I don’t support something as vague as “authoritarianism.” I support the working class being in control of the state and using it in its own interests, depending on the circumstances it finds itself in, minimizing excess wherever possible.
I support the proletariat using authoritarian measures, for any time we don’t our enemies laugh at us.
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Read that interview a few weeks ago, actually! And he’s correct, trying to go easy on an enemy that will thoroughly destroy you with the most brutal of measures possible is a luxury Socialists cannot afford to take if we want to build a world without such brutality to begin with.
It’s been said before, but you can be “authoritarian” like the Soviets and give people healthcare, housing, food, etc. or you can be
a good christianagainst “authoritarianism” and give people a military dictatorship.Yep, conversations around “authoritarianism” usually wind back down to just disapproving going against the status quo, regardless of how popular the measures in place are within their countries. The CPC has an over 90% approval rate, and people call it “authoritarian” functionally because businesses are heavily restricted by the state.
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My comment was more about how “authoritarian” discourse is meaningless, and more about perspective than anything else. From my point of view, the US Empire’s use of authority is far worse and more destructive than, say, Cuba’s, yet Capitalist media paints the US Empire as a bastion of freedom and Cuba as an Orwellian nightmare.
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I think you’re turning your disillusionment towards the Capitalist framework into nihilism about analysis of structures. Marxists frequently posit structures like the Soviet system, which feature both local, tight-knit councils and larger councils made up of representatives of these councils, resulting in a comprehensively democratic system. Without these higher rungs, large-scale planning can’t exist effectively, which means a fall in the level of production and a decrease in the ability of humanity to satisfy its needs.