• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    Again, this “argument” is totally irrelevant, but:

    If that counts the same as TSA, then hair/nail stylists, massage therapists, valets, Uber (and taxi and limo) drivers, hotel housekeepers and concierges are all traditionally tipped.

    But again, that doesn’t matter. The system is what it is. Changing it is an option, but that does have practical considerations associated with it.

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      2 years ago

      They are tipped, yes, but no NOT rely on tips for their wages. No other industry pays under minimum wage and expects me, the consumer, to subsidize employee’s wages.

      Try again.

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        2 years ago

        Then no, venue security is not the same as TSA. Stop moving your goalposts. It’s one or the other: either degree matters and venue security isn’t the same as TSA so uniqueness of a scenario isn’t important, or degree doesn’t matter and every traditionally tipped worker is the same so it’s not unique in the first place. Either way your position crumbles.

        And for at least the third time: your entire argument is pointless and irrelevant in the first place. Things are as they are. Saying “It shouldn’t be this way!” doesn’t change how it is.

        Restaurants that eliminate tipping will go out of business in competition with those that don’t. This is not a problem that can be solved by individual restaurant initiative. Stomping your feet and shouting that you shouldn’t have to and it’s not fair, without offering any actual effective course of action, is just embarrassing.