Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don’t get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.
Then on Oct 1, they threw up a “You’re using an Ad Blocker” overlay on videos. I’d use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn’t have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.
Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.
Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.
Now all I see is this.
Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.
I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can’t view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.
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All the morons defending a mindless corporation in this thread forgot that Google has far overstepped it’s boundaries in general. It got to where it is from harvesting free data from users. And now is initiating a web DRM that will far overstep any boundary seen. If a website decides to adopt it, everyone is screwed.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrity-api-sounds-like-drm-for-the-web/
It really is quite something seeing people so concerned on behalf Google’s revenue streams, and dedicating such passionate advocacy for them.
The other day I talked about migrating from youtube and I shit you not everyone told me how it’s impossible. I know things can be hard but it really hit home the idea that the biggest obstacle anyone will have is convincing people it is even possible. As someone who was born before there was a youtube and will die (fingers crossed) after youtube is put to bed I just don’t even know where to start.
So help me out here… I’ve tried to ditch YouTube a couple of times. I currently have a family premium sub. Since it’s now like 22 a month, I’d love to save it for something else.
I watch a ton of electronics repair, ham radio, and car repair channels. Some of these channels have only 2k to 100k subs, some much less, like 10. I also look up a lot of how to repair videos a lot when working on my own broken crap (lawn mower, washer, etc).
I tried peertube twice and it’s just not it. Nebula doesn’t have the content. What else is there? I just can’t seem to find a good replacement. Once I can find something for myself, it might be possible to get my wife and kids switched, but it would have to be a lot of gaming videos, make-up tutorials, and freaking happy planner stuff… I just don’t think any other service is going to have this content.
I do prefer finding blog style articles for the repair stuff, but it seems that ship has sailed now. Everything is a video now.
I don’t have the answer, sorry.
This is what I am saying though. It will be difficult to transition but if we never start it will never be reality.
I’ll tell you what I am doing. I am forcing myself to only use youtube through the browser and only when it is most convenient. I don’t use it for music. I don’t go to it for tutorials on things that I already have a base understanding of and can find information elsewhere. I am just basically trying to live my life like it does not exsist.
That’s good for me but some people are set, and I get that.
Though I will say, if there was some hobbiest youtube content with low subs I would start asking them for alternative ways to view their content. These people just want to get their content out there and if they have to go through as many channels as possible my feeling is they would be more than willing.
invidious?
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“Duck player” in duckduckgo browser gets around it 👍
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The risk is actually that banking and government services will adopt it. Which you sorta are forced to use at one point in time or another.
Greed, by definition, has no limits.
What happens when they block adblockers? Do you think they’re just going to stop there? Or will they go from 3 ads every 10 minute to 4 ads every 10 minutes?
Greed, by definition, has no limits.
The solution to the problem is to have higher standards. But people with low standards get mad whenever that’s pointed out.
They’re useful idiots for a reason.
reminds me of “embrace extend extinguish” but google did it better than Microsoft; over a longer timeframe.
But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don’t get much from my choices.
Implying that deleting them from your view actually deleted them.
“You can go ad free with YouTube premium!”
Buys premium
youtube shows ad for paramount plus under my video
Cancels YouTube premium.
So anywho there’s a thing called freetube. Just saying. Idk that it’s a perfect alternative, but it’s at least one step further from googles prying eyes and grubby hands.
So, stop using Chrome ffs, ublock and Firefox have zero issues
Tbh, I block ads when I can but have a hard time getting angry about this. YouTube is both incredibly useful and incredibly expensive to operate – seriously, what other service lets you upload hours of HD video which anyone in the world can access instantly, indefinitely, for free, and at the same scale YT does? It’s a peerless engineering marvel and it would be a tragedy if it were to shut down. If seeing some short skippable ads is what it takes to keep that resource viable, that’s honestly pretty fair.
YouTube: starts putting 2, sometimes even 3 ads that are often unskippable before and in the middle of 10 minute videos
Also YouTube: Why are people using adblockers?
Ublock Origin literally works fine for youtube. If you ever receive a warning like this just clear your cache and refresh your filters.
Just to let you know, if you use uBlock you can expect it to adapt to this new shenanigan pretty quickly. Also I think €120/year are ridiciously overpriced. Ask me about €30/year and I might consider it for a second.
To be honest, I wouldn’t mind ads on Youtube if they were less per hour and less obnoxious. But no, every 12 second video now has an ad leading to it.
Not to mention, if I would pay for every single Video service the usual 8-15€ I would pay like €1000 per year and THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Give me “pretty much everything” for €100 per year and we can talk. My offer stands.
You don’t have a choice.
Also Ublock Origin on Firefox already bypass this.
When they take out uBlock Origin, they take me out as well.
If you’re on PC use Firefox with uBlock Origin.
For Android, Im personally using Libretube but using mobile Firefox with uBlock Origin also works.
PSA:Firefox + ublock origin combo works on android as well. If you don’t want to install revanced.
Kiwi + ublock 👍
On android you should try to go with youtube revanced, its a little tedious and time consuming to install but it is worth every single second.
Nah I prefer Libretube.
I’m curious, what makes you prefer Libretube?
NewPipe is another good option for android
Another option on Android is NewPipe. Doesn’t look as nice as Libretube imo, but it goes to Youtube directly for content which is useful since public piped instances can be a bit unreliable or slow from time to time. (Also on Libretube you have to sign up and re-import your subscriptions whenever you switch instances which can be tedious)
NewPipe is really good once you get the hang of it.
You have to keep in mind that its development has temporarily slowed down a bit, so you won’t have many new features, such as being able to view Shorts and Livestreams tabs in a profile (can be overcome by browsing the profile via Invidious and sharing the page to NewPipe) but bugfixes are usually quick. AFAIK the slowdown is due to a rewrite/refactoring which will make NewPipe easier to develop and maintain and improve its UI.
Also FreeTube for PC
You can disable libretube proxy in settings
Revanced still pretty much works for me
For iOS users, I highly recommend using Vinegar. 👌
I just tried libretube but it crashes every time I click on a video :(
It’s such a shame because I used to use newpipe all the time and I absolutely loved that, until it also stopped working
Did you install it from fdroid? There is a problem in fdroid version that crashes app when trying to play video. Its already fixed on github but fdroid is slow to update.
Thank you!! Now it works perfectly :)
Its also available on IzzyOnDroid repo
I think you need to update NewPipe.
If you just installed the app from an apk file, try installing it from the F-Droid app instead, to keep on receiving new updates.
Alternatively, you could add it to the Obtainium app (use the search bar when adding), since it supports GitHub, F-Droid and many more repositories.
That’ll keep you updated!
Revanced not an option?
Yeah I just clicked X on their popup and went back to watching videos lol
That is just the beginning of your warnings. Later there will be a countdown before the x appears, and eventually there will be no x to click. You need to use ublock origin (and non-Chromium browsers). Remember to purge cache and updage ublock origin.
NewPipe still works for me. But i see only crap, so i close it again.
Find channels and subscribe. It pulls them in from the feed.
clipious exists
Never heard of it.
I use Firefox with uBO on Windows and it doesn’t help. I tried installing filters I found online but they don’t do shit.
I’ll just install FreeTube.
It’s likely because you have some other addons/tracking protection/etc that blocks stuff or otherwise modifies how YouTube behaves. I had a YouTube enhancement addon installed, once I uninstalled that, everything got blocked properly again.
That’s odd. Were you using other YouTube add-ons?
If only peertube had the same culture as Lemmy and Mastodon.
But it feels like, imo, Peertube has fallen to the same pitfalls as other YouTube alternatives. 99% of vids I see on Peertube instances are far-right conspiracy theory videos among other obviously abhorrent content that would otherwise be banned on youtube.
Newpipe is still working great, I haven’t used an official interface in like 3 years.
PC: Install Firefox. Then install these extensions: Sponsorblock for YouTube, Enhancer for YouTube, uBlock Origins with all the filters turned on except the language filters (you can use them if you wish) and Return YouTube Dislike. Keep uBlock Filters updated by checking for filter updates once a day.
Android: There’s Revanced. I use pre-built apks along with Vanced MicroG from RVX Lite in Telegram.
Android TV: Install SmartTubeNext.
Enjoy.
That works as well.
any iOS suggestions?
Use Altstore and sideload uYouPlus
This is the best an iOS user can do I think. Does Firefox exist in App Store? If yes, if it doesn’t use Safari as base, it might be supporting extensions. Never had an iPhone so don’t know much about it.
Slightly better, instead of Altstore get your device registered on the apple developer program (there are cheap ways of doing this) then you can sign as many sideloaded apps as you want and they stay working without having to constantly connect altserver.
It uses Safari as a base, for now. Hoping that with the EU forcing other app stores or sideloading we get full Firefox on iOS. Would be amazing.
I remember seeing something saying they were testing a full build for iOS a while back. They essentially have one feature complete with the macOS Apple Silicon version as well.
I use safari with an adblocker extension (AdGuard) on ios
youtube works just fine in a browser, the youtube app sucks anyway
Use a product not designed to remove all control from you as its number one core design principle
ok but I like the iPad. Great hardware
Invidious has still been working for me too, though I’ll be clear I’m also using firefox
Hey I had a lot of problem with invidious how can u mitigate the long loading times and what about the front page … it changes content maybe once a day yeah I know I probably consume too much yt but it’s pretty annoying to search for content manually…
Sorry for the delayed responce, but yeah I understand if it’s not working for you it might not be a great option sadly.
If that’s happening, I’d try a few different instances. Try inv.tux.pizza which works well for me. I do sometimes have to click the address bar and then enter though instead of just reloading, which is also strange
Thanks I will definitely give it a shot I’m tired of yt policies (eventhow thanks to various addblock its normal for now … )
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People always recommend this, freetube, revanced, etc. When I looked into these, each one either did not work or seemed complicated to setup so I said screw it.
I’m just curious… why not use Firefox and install ublock origin? Even if you’ve never used Firefox before the whole setup process would still be far easier and it works 100% of the time.
