Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer suggested that President Biden should talk about abortion more so people know he is a president who is “fighting” for the right to an abortion.
Asked by CBS News “Face the Nation” anchor Margaret Brennan if Biden, who is of Catholic faith, needs to talk about abortion more, Whitmer said, “I think it would be good if he did.”
“I know that one tenet of his belief system is that women and only women at — with their families and — and health care professionals are the ones who know what decision is right for them,” said Whitmer, co-chair for Biden’s reelection campaign. “And that he is fighting and going to continue to fight to make sure that that is squarely the ability … [of] an American woman to make that decision.”
Brennan then asked if Biden needs to be the messenger on that more, to which Whitmer said, “I don’t think it would hurt.”
She is absolutely not wrong.
But then voters might ask why Democrats haven’t passed legislation guaranteeing access to abortion or reproductive health services in OVER FOURTY YEARS, during which they had super majorities more than once.
Start inviting questions you can’t answer, and it’s going to be a bad time for you.
Republicans will literally start hunting queer folks for sport and the white left is still going to find a reason why it means we should spend energy being mad at the Dems.
Maybe they should protect them. Or do you forget when a Democrat created “Don’t ask, don’t tell”? If you think they’re innocent in all of this, you’re deluded. I just happen to be old enough to remember their sins.
DADT was a huge achievement for gay rights.
I highly doubt you were old enough to remember or you wouldn’t be shitting on it
Ah, yes, I forgot how awesome dishonorable discharge was for vets that served their country. I forgot how many killed themselves after being outed, or fearing being outed.
Sounds more like you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m sure you think Bill Clinton did nothing wrong, too. I’ve never met an open and proud neo lib before. Gross stuff.
Before DADT, the military would investigate suspected gay men like they were dangers to everyone around them. If you were a gay man, you couldn’t even go to a gay bar while off duty because you might be being followed by MPs out to catch you doing gay shit.
DADT was a massive improvement and it doesn’t deserve to be shit on just because you think it should have gone further.
What
He thinks inaction is beyond criticism.
Bullshit. They’re simply saying that now probably isn’t the best time for infighting. As Levitsky and Ziblatt show in their book, “How Democracies Die,” a disunited and squabbling opposition is how authoritarian dictatorships come to power.
You can agree or not, but don’t misrepresent the argument.
I’m not misrepresenting a damned thing. It’s never “the time” to criticize the useless-on-purpose centrist inaction wing of the party. The last time centrists didn’t get everything they wanted, they formed a PAC to elect McCain.
Here’s the thing; we are trying to treat a figurative heart attack while you are bitching about a figurative cancer.
In medicine we have the concept of triage, wherein we treat the most immediately life-threatening issue first, and then, once the patient is stabilized, we move on to the next treatment.
What you are arguing in favor of is basically treating the cancer while ignoring the full pulmonary arrest that is happening right before your eyes.
What part about this do you not understand?
I don’t get it. I truly don’t.
Nothing about what you ultimately want will happen if you and I do not stand up together right fucking now.
The plane is about to crash into the fucking mountain and you want to bitch about your little fucking objections?
Really? That’s who you are?
you want to bitch about your little fucking objections
Buddy, we’ve been suffering since 2008. We’ve been patient. You can go fuck yourself.
They’re simply saying that now probably isn’t the best time for infighting.
Sorry. When was the appropriate time? Because when Democrat politicians are in a strong position they just give leftists the finger like they did when Obama was in office. They’ve created this adversarial relationship.
This is correct. The left is utterly incapable of unity on anything for the very good reason that unlike the right, it’s a very loosely bound coalition in which each constituent interest group feels very little loyalty to the others. The result is that when we should be coming together to stop the fucking plane from crashing into the fucking mountain, we instead feel it necessary to trot out old internal grievances, back-stab, and in general form a circular firing-squad.
It’s why the conservative minority in this country is about to turn us into a right-wing extremist autocratic shit hole even though we vastly outnumber them.
Democracies die when opposition fails to unite in the face of populist autocratic movements.
Alternatively, democracies thrive when people get fed up and demand change. Look at how opinions and even politics swung left after the barbaric, tragic killing of George Floyd. People should get angry about the fact it has been so long, women have gone unprotected nationally, and we as a nation have done nothing to protect abortion since Rowe. That should embarrass us as a nation.
While you are correct in one sense, you’ve also managed to completely miss the point in a way that to me seems deeply stupid, small-minded and idiotic.
I would ask you what part about my comment you didn’t understand, but I can tell that the answer is “nothing,” that you understood nothing, that you are utterly incapable of accurately rephrasing my argument, and that as such, you are a disappointing example of your sorry generation.
Lame. Absolutely lame stuff.
50 years. Roe v Wade happened in '73
Fair enough, I’m older than I thought.
And why addressing it only comes up in election years?
Sadly the donor class doesn’t hold the same values as the rest on the left, so politicians are rarely held to the standards they set. On both left and right in the US. That’s how the right dupes poor people into thinking they’ll get help and that help never comes.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Asked by CBS News “Face the Nation” anchor Margaret Brennan if Biden, who is of Catholic faith, needs to talk about abortion more, Whitmer said, “I think it would be good if he did.”
Whitmer argued people want to know their president “is fighting” and suggested more “blunt language” could be helpful.
Brennan asked Whitmer if she believes this is a “legitimate promise” to voters, as Biden “doesn’t talk about abortion much.”
Biden is the nation’s second Catholic president in history and often attends Saturday evening mass with his family near his home in Wilmington, De., or in Washington, D.C. His faith has come into the spotlight at times when dealing with certain issues central to the Democratic Party but opposed by the Catholic Church, including abortion and transgender issues.
Conservative Catholic bishops have expressed issue with Biden’s support for abortion access, a view that sparked calls for the church not to offer him communion.
As a practicing Catholic, Biden said in June he is not “big on abortion” but believes the Roe v. Wade decision “got it right.”
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Just tell him it’s like genociding babies. He’ll get on board…
They downvote you like they dont know its true.
Biden is anti-abortion, at least softly. He’s not speaking up about it for that exact reason. This is exactly what you get when you elect a centrist instead of a progressive, and if you think this is bad just wait until you hear how badly he’s shitting the bed on climate change. History will not remember this man fondly, even if it was donald trump who lowered the standards to literal dogshit and convinced the DNC to overlook bernie’s massive movement for a establishment “democratic” politician who used to be a segragationist and who had trouble staying awake during the debates. I’m voting green party needless to say but riots are probably the better answer at this point
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