If Trump loses the 2024 election because Texas temporarily secedes, taking its 38 Republican electoral votes with it, I might die from the schadenfreude.
1.Just give Texas back to Mexico.
2.Reverse UNO
3.White Republicans are now the immigrants on the wrong side of the border
4.Enjoy some queso
Tesla becoming a mexican business lmao
👌chef’s kiss
Mexico 2 days later: Amigo, please take these fuck faces back
Or cartel runs in and they have a lucrative cash for drugs trade, that they mostly funnel into other states for profit not seeing the irony in any if it…
probably quadrupling the length of border with Mexico.
the issue with that is that cartels like being paid for their products as much as any business- legitimate or otherwise. Texas won’t be able to pay when we remove them from the US banking system. there’s not enough cash to go around, and they’ll probably have to mint their own currency.
Which… the Cartel won’t be dumb enough to do business in… which means they’ll have to do business in stuff like gold or whatever else.
Guns
the cartels already have better guns than most texans, so, yeah.
Americans who move to other countries always call themselves expats since immigrants are “those other people”.
I haven’t had an orgasm since 2017, but I think that would do it.
What happened in 2017
Their last orgasm obviously.
the nihilist in me really wants to see texas attempt this.
confederates === domestic terrorists. lets act accordingly.
I doubt this whole display is anything more than a distraction from the impending elections but I’m going to keep saying it anyway:
Please remember there are sane, reasonable, nonconservative people living here without a good way out. We’re not the enemy.
Might not be domestic for long. Plus I hear they’ve got oil! Not sure they’ve thought this through.
the nihilist in me really wants to see texas attempt this.
Just to get rid of Abbot and Cruz it would be worth it.
Ah ha, I found a JS dev lmfao
Normal languages: “does this equal that?”
JS: “does this REALLY equal that, or just ‘equal’ that?”
JS comparing a string and some random number: “ah, close enough probably”
This Texan checked into it, and unfortunately we have no procedure for recalling our treasonous governor. At a minimum, he should be held in contempt of court and jailed. I would like to see a treason indictment.
just break the elevator in the state house
there is- at the federal level some vague means of getting “congress” to do it. Victor Berger was removed by a vote of the full house (WI rep that was convicted improperly of espionage. he was part of the socialist party in 1919.) He was elected as a representative to the house (and the specific side of congress has jurisdiction over itself).
There’s nothing saying the senate, for example, couldn’t weigh in, declare him unfit and have him removed from his position. I have no idea how that would shake out… but given his announcement or declaration or whatever that was, that’s basically invalidating the US constitution… that is definitely insurrection against the US. The 14th amendment section 5 gives authority to soley Congress to enforce 14th’s section 3 (you know the insurrection clause).
I would expect that if the house of senate voted to remove him… then the shitheads in SCOTUS would say that it has to be unanimous with the house of reps. but it would be something more than what’s currently being done- which is nothing.
I don’t believe the federal legislative can remove the executive of a federated state.
He can be arrested and tried though.
The 14th Amendment’s 3rd clause is self executing, so arguably he’s just disqualified himself from office.
Can we just acknowledge that this is unhinged? Biden has the strongest border policies ever implemented by a Democrat. This just shows that there is no compromise possible with these traitors. They will never admit you made a step in their direction, only demand more and more and more until you’re just doing their bidding.
This is truly the way of extremists and terrorists, they demand the country be run to their preferences, democratic systems be damned.
It really is sad to see so many Americans captivated by misinformation that they’ve convinced themselves is real. Abandoning science, reason, discussion, compromise, even tolerance. I try to keep my bloodthirst in check but after years upon years of them growing like a cancer, forming cult-like militia, becoming full blown domestic terrorists threatening high treason, it can’t be tolerated any further. It was cute when it was just posturing, symbolizing they were unhappy with the system at large and wanted to fuck with it a little.
Now it’s spiraled out of control. Now the punishment for treason should be felt. Either mercifully with the arrest of Abbott or vengefully with the GOP Texans being buried under the new courthouse.
Is there somewhere I can read about Biden’s border policy compared to other Democrats? This is definitely something I’m totally uninformed about and I’d like to read up a bit, if you know of a good rundown.
Not really a rundown. Just years of paying attention. The basic thing is they aren’t recognizing the right to declare asylum after entering the country anymore. You have to wait in your home country or Mexico until your paperwork is processed. Of course that’s ridiculous considering how the cartels prey on the refugees and asking someone to stay in the country they are seeking asylum from.
Pra ba jeebus
A more cynical person might suggest they are doing this BECAUSE of that. Biden can’t run on the numbers if Texas keeps blocking action.
That’s not cynical, they’ve come right out and said this is what they’re doing. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4429211-romney-trump-border-bill-biden/
cut off all federal funding
let then secede
invade and retake them as a territory with no federal voting rights
make dc and puerto rico states
republicans never win again
Please stop I can only get so erect
Naw, split up the state into 4 states, with Houston, Austin, Dallas and San Antonio as capitals. Cut state lines and populations up to ensure that as the main city votes so goes the state.
That’d be 8 democratic senators.
Add DC, PR, American Virgin Islands American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands and that’s potentially another 12.
Regardless of politics the territories, and DC, should have statehood and equal rights and representation as the rest of us or they should have independence. It’s part of our national identity. No more colonialism or secondclass sub citizens.
Do it, you chicken shit piss baby
if they secede we’ll have to update all the flags. what a pain. maybe we could just add in puerto rico really quick
Would rather have Puerto Rico anyway. Texas will return to being Mexico pretty swiftly and that’s probably better for everyone.
Mexico won’t want them. My bets are they break into even more countries, some of which get incorporated into the US and Mexico. Then the remains become a lawless region because they don’t have the money to fight the cartels. So we get a military occupation on our southern border. Nobody comes away happy but the MIC.
Which given the arc of history in the post WW2 period is, I believe, the best indicator of how things will go.
So, which Texans want to have reliable electricity?
Gonna look like the stupid guy here, what does MIC stand for?
Meh, just means you’re one of the 10,000 today.
Military Industrial Complex.
Brexit was so successful, it’s now time for Texit!
Stop threatening the rest of us with a good time
So all federal money cut off.
But wait, doesn’t Texas pay more than they received?
Yes, but let’s really look at this. Military and veterans don’t get paid. Oil confiscated by the Navy stationed on both the East and West coast. Any company with a federal account closes down bc Texas doesn’t pay the same. Massive border to protect against a reunification force.
I think they change their mind in a split second.
They did pay into the federal system more than they took at one time, but it hasn’t been like that for a long time now. They couldn’t handle having federal funding cut off.
The only issue I have with secession talk is there are lots of Texas citizens who aren’t the problem. Every red state has people with common sense, they just don’t have the ability at the moment to shut up the idiots. Plus secession at this point is ludicrous, leaving with your toys isn’t how you fix problems. Oh wait, it’s Republicans, they don’t ever have solutions anymore anyway it’s all a political game.
Abbott is unfit to hold office.
I have yet to see this mentioned in any of these threads, at least the ones that I have read. If Texas secedes or tries to, Republicans lose 38 seats in the House of Representatives and two Senate seats. This give the House to Democrats for the foreseeable future and Democrats an easier path to passing bills in the Senate. Not that Texas, Abbott, cares.
not to mention then they’ll be a country with oil within peacekeepin’ distance of the USA
Can anyone tell me how much of Texas’ oil production is offshore? Because the US would claim all of that on day one.
Here’s hoping a congressman disappears him.
But seriously, there needs to be a mechanism for the feds to impeach a governor.
They have one now but it’s messy and stains the carpet.
They pee on it?
C’mon man, that rug really tied the room together!
Do I look like I’m governor?? The toilet seat is up!
if the secede their electoral votes shouldn’t count until congress passes a bill readmitting them. it’s only fair
Again? Texas does this almost every election cycle and they aren’t dumb enough to try it. Or maybe they are. That’d be a show.
I’m Canadian and this is like Quebec for us. None of us take them seriously, they do this so often. They’re also land locked and would die without the rest of the country. I for one would love it if French Canada stopped having so much political pull over the rest of the country.
People from the ROC hating Quebec without knowing anything about it is normal, but I have never seen someone forget the St Laurence River exists before.
As a born and raised Texan, I’ve been seeing “Secede” bumper stickers for decades now. However, it’s the first time that I remember the governor saying it. So it is still notable, even if it’s old rhetoric.
biden should call the bluff and ask the house and senate to release texas from the union under the condition it compensates the US for any federal land and supplies.
Not even. We take what’s ours, they can keep the land and what infrastructure is left. All federal funds are frozen and all US based assets for Texans are frozen until diplomatic relations are formally established and financial treaties are in place. All power, pipelines and rail are blocked/shut off at the border. All passports in Texas names are null, along with all no cost governmental passports. Military Checkpoints at all major roads in and out of Texas with nobody allowed in or out without a valid US passport. All airport and federal airport staff are reassigned or permitted to resign with negative SF50 rehire status. All airspace on the US side is closed to any transit.
Most of this can be accomplished in a week or two with the military securing the border operations (as is appropriate). It would be fair to allow, say, a month grace period for anyone who wants to stay in the US to relocate. After they are free to leave by the gulf or, if Mexico decides to honor the defunct passports.
The US / TexAss border would be nearly as long as the entire east coast of the US. Securing that isn’t going to be fast or easy.
I don’t think we give these military installations up.
Biden is commander in chief. I’d love to see him just order one or two of the smaller bases to relocate to another state, effective immediately. And while he’s at it, send NASA HQ back to Massachusetts where it belongs. Then let Texas know if they want to keep playing he can relocate the rest of the bases out of the state.
He is wrong. But also imagine what that looks like. You think people in the UK regret brexit? Hahaha I hope Texas can grow all their own food.
Or don’t have any natural disasters they aren’t prepared for.
That’s your concern? We have farmland coming out our ass. Food isn’t going to be the problem.
While Texas has a hell of a lot of natural resources, trying to break away from the entire commerce cycle and keep growing food ends up getting a bit tricky.
I mean hell you guys can’t even produce your own electricity effectively enough to keep people from freezing to death. Even fixing that problem without local suppliers and engineers ends up being pretty damn expensive.
It’ll start well enough trying to turn resources from outside the state to local sources. A lot of local small and medium industry will probably be bolstered. But then what happens when the US stops allowing import of cattle. You’ve got plenty of food, food isn’t your problem anymore, but now all those giant farms don’t have anybody to sell their goods to anymore. They’re going to go from feeding 50 states to trying to feed one state that already has all they want of that product. You can’t just f*** with supply and demand like that your economy will s*** itself. You’ll be trying to sell oil and gas to Mexico. Your ports will just be packed with tankers trying to find somebody that’ll buy your oil, so you can trade for stuff you really need. You won’t even be able to fill the tankers fast enough to keep that section of the economy flowing like it is now.
When brexit did it they just got a taste of the pain because all of their trade routes and agreements More or less remained in place just today non-preferential price.
Credit due, you’ve got a better chance of making it work then just about any other state, but y’all go mad Max before you got it sorted.
You’re going to be eating cotton and hay or fighting cows for their corn
Pay per view would make them some income maybe
Lol okay, have fun eating all that seed corn and cotton.
Truth is they could just import crops from other countries until they build a water desalination and piping network to provide water throughout the whole state… country? 🤔 And if they did that, then they feasibly could survive on their own
But that would require actual care for its citizens, planning and forethought.
Also a lot of electricity….which they’re not great at.
They could just put solar and wind across the state, but again, planning, forethought, caring
lol. Solar and wind power. Are we talking about the same state?
Texas has the most wind power of any state last time I checked.
Texas could benefit a lot from green energy without the baggage of nuclear, honestly. But try telling that to its people
What countries would want to work with them knowing it would likely hurt relations with the US? How can they even afford it?
Russia. North Korea, perhaps.
<.< Over which border/through which airspace?
