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    It’s amazing how dumb this entire situation is. To my knowledge she hasn’t even publicly endorsed a candidate or political party, right? Just suggested her fans register to vote?

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      Republicans understand that demographics are against them, and their only chance is to whip their base into a froth while simultaneously making it harder for Others to vote.

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        Ding ding ding

        Just like it is every election season. Republicans rely on the electoral vote, propaganda, and systematic diseducation (idk if that’s even a word, case in point?) to ensure victories over the populace

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          “Education” is from Latin “educ” which means “lead out”. The reverse would be to lead in, which is “ducere in”. So if you want to make a new but old-fashioned word, I suggest “ducereination” or because the “e-i”" syllables are uncomfortable to say and would have likely been dropped over time, “ducerination”. The “c” might be pronounced as an “s” or as a “k” depending on how the word would have evolved since ancient times, but I prefer a “k” sound (which I think is the wrong one according to Google) so it sounds like the “c” in “education”.

          Note that I don’t know Latin.

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            I don’t know a goddamn thing about Latin grammar, but it looks like you could follow the etymology of “education” more closely. The “educ” part is itself derived from “ex ducere”, so we could probably have “inducation”

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              Y’all. Did you have your coffees this morning?

              There’s already an organically evolved etymologically rich word for the “passing of closed thinking”, that harkens back to “leading in” or Inducing…

              Indoctrination.

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                Yeah, but the right only agree that indoctrination exists when it’s colleges indoctrinating people into free-thought which they call being woke. Say that word to them and they’ll be like “rubber, glue, you” because that’s about as many syllables as the average right-winger can muster, and about as intelligent a complete thought as I expect from them as well.

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                  I guarantee you they’ll feel the same way if you say ducerination or inducation. Words they don’t understand are inherently an attack, just like woke, which originally meant someone or something that was championing the rights of people in modern times

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      Yes. That is all she did. Got them to register to vote. She didn’t even hint at who they should vote for. That might change now, and not the way Republicans want.

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        Honestly, it’s such an incredible own goal. By aligning themselves in opposition to her, Republicans are begging for her fans to vote against them.

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      Correct. They’ve tacitly acknowledged for quite a while that discouraging their enemies from voting is a big part of their strategy, though, and I don’t think anyone involved thinks the Taylor Swift fans are also Trump fans.

      Honestly, if someone tries to tell you voting won’t change anything, just point to how hard they try to rig the systems that drive it and how much they freak out about any indication that their enemies are planning to vote in large numbers.

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        It’s been going on ever since black people got the right to vote. It’s been suppress the vote ever since. Used to be let the radicals do their thing away from the party, now it’s imbedded in Fox and gop itself.

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      Registering to vote helps Democrats more than Republicans, because first time voters and younger voters are more likely to vote Democrat. Republicans do better when less people vote.

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        Registering to vote helps Democrats more than Republicans, because first time voters and younger voters are more likely to vote Democrat many more people want to vote for Democrats.

        Though your original version is also correct.

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          Yes, absolutely. If we made voting mandatory, made Election Day a national holiday, and actually managed to get our turnout over 90%, the Democrats would landslide every election and the Republicans know it.

          An awful lot of Republican policy makes sense when you view them as a party with a shrinking base. They’re trying to eek out what they can before shifting over to a new base.

          Rubio, Cruz, and De Santis have been trying to build Hispanic bases, though none of them are really charismatic enough to pull it off.

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            their ideology is literally and metaphorically dying off and the only way they can retain power is by destroying democracy. everything they do is to make sure people can’t vote them out, up to and including a fascist coup

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            Who would think that 3 personally repulsive people from the Let’s Kill Immigrants and Deport Their Families Party would have trouble making inroads with Latino voters? It’s a real mystery!

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      Here she is speaking about Republicans in a 2020 documentary. I would say it’s a bit more than asking people to register.

      Edit to add: She comes across so genuinely in this clip, I really love it. Listen to her speak and then think of any time you’ve ever heard Trump speak. I can understand why they feel threatened.

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      She endorsed Biden in 2020 so there is a good chance she will again.

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      That may as well have been a direct attack against the GOP. Their whole motus operandi is suppressing the vote and voter apathy, keep people away from the polls and sick of the whole process. They don’t really need to run a better campaign than their opponent, just make their opponents’ supporters so sick of all the noise and both-sidesing everything, they just sit out the whole thing because there’s no difference between anybody, right?

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    Watching Kimmel’s monologue from yesterday-

    The same people who believe Joe Biden has dementia and needs Kamala Harris to feed him butterscotch tapioca every night also believe that he has somehow planned and executed a diabolicalically brilliant scheme to fix the NFL playoffs so the biggest pop star in the world can pop up on the jumbotron during the Superbowl in between a Kia and a Tostitos commercial to hypnotize her 11-year-old fans into voting for Joe Biden.

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    “Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”

    News from a completely normal and not broken at all timeline. Imagine reading that sentence to someone 10 years ago.

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      10 years ago was still 2 years left in the final Obama administration. Add on just a bit more to really drive those 2014 people crazy:

      “After an unsuccessful violent insurrection to stay in the White House after being voted out, Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”

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          We’re past Idiocracy. President Camacho listened to the smartest person in the room. Trump thinks he is the smartest person in the room.

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            Trump knows he’s not the smartest person in the room. Trump wants to claim to be the smartest person in the room, and enjoys watching nobody correct him. That makes him feel like the most powerful person in the room. He doesn’t care who the smartest is, as long as he gets to claim it and all the credit for everything smarter people do near him.

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      I feel like that headline would be completely normal during the 80s satanic witch hunt.

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        I think they’d be confused about why a real estate celebrity is going after a 1 year old girl but yeah not too far off

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    They’re not trying to win the popularity contest. They’re trying to win the “do what we say or maybe one of our violent followers will try to kill you” contest. That’s what Hannity means by “think twice.”

    They abandoned the pretense of nonviolence and freedom of speech for their enemies quite a while ago.

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      I guarantee you Taylor Swift has some of the best security in the world, so I’m guessing that doesn’t worry her much.

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        They could still bomb one of her concerts, or drive a car into fans waiting in line, or some other type of stochastic terrorism. Like a lot terrorism, it’s not necessary to do enough to actually endanger a real high percentage of people, just enough to make anyone who won’t toe the line a little fearful about their safety because of it. A little bit’s enough.

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          although getting a lot of people who are apolitical but have progressive values to pay attention by bombing their favorite pop star isn’t going to have a favorable outcome for the bombers

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    The difference between Swift and Trump is that Taylor understands she needs to give back to her fans, in music and performances. Trump just sees his fans as providing something for him, their money in donations and ego boosts.

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    My friends dad who had spent his entire life as a staunch republican like Reagan style came to her and said “who do you want me to vote for, you are going to be here I wont”.

    I hope this perspective shift happens with all boomers.

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      spent his entire life as a staunch republican like Reagan style

      TBF his perspective hasn’t changed that much. It’s his party that has abandoned him.

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        Reminds me of my grandfather who was one of those “Voted for Eisenhower 'cause Lincoln won the war” types according to my dad. He voted straight Republican in every election until 2004.

        See, the Bush campaign started handing out Purple Heart Band Aids as part of the swiftboating of John Kerry. My grandfather, who had earned a Purple Heart and delivered one to his dead friend’s parents, didn’t appreciate the joke, and voted Democrat for the rest of his life.

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        Ray-gun was a Trump precursor. It was Bush Sr. that took a step back from the brink and went back to just being an awful jackass.

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    After 8 years of whatever Democrats claim they’re doing, Donald Trump may have finally encountered opponents who are interested in fighting back.

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      I feel the same about Taylor Swift. It’s not really my genre of music, but I like pretty much everything she does and can’t think of any song I actively dislike. My daughter’s into her, so it’s nice I can listen to music with her and legitimately enjoy it.

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        Same. I don’t listen to her, but my kids love her. She’s cool and aspirational. She’s a great role model.

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      It’s not my kind of music, but someone the WGA and SAG/AFTRA gave their blessings to show her concert movie during their strike because she said, “okay, I’ll give you whatever you’re asking for” is okay in my book.

      Plus getting her fans to register to vote is just a good act.

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      Yeah but I’m sure she was paying those people more than Trump was to show up at her event, right? What, she didn’t pay them anything unless they were working the event?

      Well, it’s not hard to attract people to a free concert. Huh? It wasn’t free? More people were willing to pay how much to see her than were willing to be paid by Trump to see him?

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      Not to mention her fans broke Live Nation. A website supposedly robust enough to handle ticket sales virtually every major live event every day in the entire nation. And they broke it so badly that congress got involved.

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    If Trump loses, I hope they have Taylor Swift play at Biden’s Inauguration. I don’t even like Taylor Swift’s music, but it’d be a nice slap in the face to the GOP.

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      I can hear my mom yelling about it now. Funny how she was mostly ignorant about here existence until Fox News started complaining about her and now she hates her guts. Always liked watching the super bowl until this mess and now she’s “maybe I don’t bother”.

      But if I poke her about it she turns into “I am not just parroting them. You need to stop reading CNN and all those brainwashed sources.”

      It’s so close to realizing, but won’t cross the line. I have read about 2 articles from CNN in my entire life. The entire news industry hates maga now. It’s pretty much just FN, Newsmax, and the absolute far end of the spectrum of hate preachers and Alex Jones that say anything close to what you want to hear, as far as I can see.

      Yeah if the entire world can agree on something, but my preferred group is the holdout, I think I would re-examine my view. It’s just mind boggling that just one huge mainstream network says stuff that all the others disagree with, and that’s the one you are just so sure it’s right about everything.

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        You should try to sit down with her and watch, “The Brainwashing of my Dad” documentary. See if anything resonates with her at all.

        Alternatively remind her that the RNC had Clint Eastwood speak at the convention, talking to an empty chair strangely…

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          She is stuck on that side. If she knows some kind of news or information is not sanctioned by Fox News she automatically either avoids listening to it in the first place, or discounts it immediately. Even on just local news (and this is a very conservative area, at least this half of the state) if they say something about gay people, or just mention a gay event and if they don’t immediately say something negative about it, she just rolls her eyes.

          Even with a TV show she likes, if gay characters do a gay thing (omg 2 dudes kissing!) she will literally make the noise… Umm what is the word for it… Retching, I think? Whatever the barf noise is called. She will literally make that noise and look away from the screen.

          There is nothing rational about this kind of behavior, you can’t win this argument. The chess board is already on the floor here.

          So I don’t know anything about that documentary, but if she has any reason to think it’s not sponsored by Fox News, it’s literally just fiction at best and “Communist Marxist propaganda” at worst.

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            Yeah that’s sad but I can completely understand. Religions have been abusing this for eons and now it’s being used directly for a political ideology. There comes a point where reason doesn’t even matter.

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        For the purpose of this discussion, let’s take her lack of political experience off the table entirely.

        I’m not a fan of her music by any stretch of the imagination, but she’s got to one of the hardest working people in the industry with some of the best people working for her. In other words, she’s everything Trump pretends to be, but for real.

        She is LEGITIMATELY massively successful and became so while intentionally staying out of politics. She’s a real version of everything the MAGA goons pretended made Trump a qualified candidate: an outsider who has their own money and is therefore immune to lobbying and/or corruption.

        So by MAGA’s own metric, she’s ABSOLUTELY qualified for the position.