• I_Jedi@lemmy.today
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    Here is a choice list of Democrats that voted for war with Iran:

    • Henry Cuellar of Texas
    • Jared Golden of Maine
    • Greg Landsman of Ohio
    • Juan Vargas of California
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    Knock Down The House

    Regardless of your opinion on AOC, this documentary about how she got elected lays out the steps. IMO it’s how AOC got elected that is the key to fixing America. Americans need to make that happen every single election. Systematic problems need more than 1 presidential term to reverse after all.

    1. Independent local grassroots electoral movement. Dedicated to getting/organizing volunteers, signature gathering, door knocking, everything from getting candidates on the ballot to winning in the election.

    2. Candidate nominations. AOC didn’t sign up, her BIL or someone nominated her and the Grassroots Movement approached her to run.

    3. PRIMARIES. PRIMARIES. PRIMARIES. Target establishment DNCs who clearly have more in common with corporate lobbyists than their own constituents.

    4. Run the numbers game. Only 1/4 of their candidates won. Democrats should face a primary EVERY SINGLE ELECTION.

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      There’s gonna be issues with 3 and 4. The establishment Dems are not going to allow progressive candidates to succeed if they can help it.

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        You’re at least a year behind…

        And everyday “I didn’t know cuz billionaire owned TV did tell me!” becomes a less and less valid excuse.

        Someone has to be completely disengaged from reality and anyone tangentially connected to it at this point to still not understand.

        Which a lot of people are…

        But very few of them stumble into political communities and then discourage Dema from voting in the Dem primary.

        What are you even doing here?

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          A passing comment about the established pattern of establishment Dems fucking with the primaries isn’t a discouragement for voting in the primaries.

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            Saying the primaries are useless cuz the party will still rig them like they used to depresses turnout and like i said, a year deep and ignorance isn’t a good excuse because you’d have heard about it by now if you’re in political spaces like you are now.

            If your comment was authentic, you would have asked about the substance not doubled down on what you’re doing is cool.

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                1. Primaries

                2. Turnouts

                You:

                There’s gonna be issues with 3 and 4. The establishment Dems are not going to allow progressive candidates to succeed if they can help it.

                Do you just not understand what the words you typed meant?

                Unfortunately that happens a lot these days

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          everyday

          Did you mean “every day” (i.e daily) here, or did you really intend for “everyday” (i.e mundane) instead?

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      Reading these points is like stepping back to the early 2010s when this advice was being given by foreigners told to mind their own business.

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        I upvoted you tho I’m not really sure what you mean. But I’m a Canadian and I’ve been telling americans to start primarying democrats since 2016… so yes. Yes it does.

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          You’re onto it. You remember.

          It’s really frustrating to see this. I remember some people getting really savaged by Americans for telling them to do these things.

          Admittedly there were a few among the Americans awake to what was happening as well, but most of it was ‘it can’t happen’, ‘mind your own business it’s our right not to vote’ and ‘our institutions would protect us from that’.

          Yep.

          Edit: and this beauty; ‘we have the 2nd Amendment…’

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            Effectively, the 2A doesn’t exist. Pretti was far from the first, but he proved it to the precious little white people. Cops will murder you and get away with it, whether you’re dangerous or not, just for having a gun. Nobody but nobody effectively has the right to bear arms. Except maybe another cop, or one of his KKK friends.

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      I’ve been saying this for years.

      Unhappily, there are plenty of people who will swear the AOC is as bad as Schumer because has gone along with the Party.

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        Unhappily, there are plenty of people who will swear the AOC is as bad as Schumer because has gone along with the Party.

        I’ve seen people say this, but literally never actually see it.

        Where are you seeing this so often?

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          I’ve been ranting about the grass roots electoral movement in thie Knock Down The HOuse documentary for years. That whole “Regardless of how you feel about AOC” I stipulated is from years of people missing the point and focusing on her instead of the grassroots movement that got her elected.

          The knee jerk hate for AOC is real

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            I’ve been ranting about the grass roots electoral movement in thie Knock Down The HOuse documentary for years. That whole “Regardless of how you feel about AOC” I stipulated is from years of people missing the point and focusing on her instead of the grassroots movement that got her elected.

            I legitimately don’t know what that means, but I’m pretty sure it’s not a place…

            The knee jerk hate for AOC is real

            Republicans and neoliberals, sure. But Obama did fine without them too.

            Doesn’t matter what mainstream media says about her, they said the same shit about Obama because they were exaggerating. They can’t say anything new at this point.

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        For real, there are thousands if not millions of people who could do just as good a job if not better than AOC.

        Harry Truman was considered a loser by his peers, and literally became president because the GOP Old Boys club wanted to prove their influence could put anyone even a paper boy into the white house.

        Americans need to mirror that capability and build local electoral machines that can primary ineffective leaders.

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    Joe Biden and the Democratic Party leadership are part-and-parcel to this. The downfall of Iran has been continuous American policy for over 40 years, and the party has acts as a honeypot to capture and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and stop the Overthrow Window from moving leftward. No more opposition to war, no more economic populism, no more social safety net. All they do is run “block tackle” for neoconservatives. The uniparty could not be more obvious right now.