• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    That’s not what fascism means, especially when these are used against capitalists most of all, and not against the working classes nearly as much. Fascism is capitalism violently entrenching itself when it finds itself in crisis, it isn’t when a socialist state uses state power to keep capitalists under control and expropriate their property.

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      That’s not what fascism is either lol

      I wouldn’t call china fascist, though doubtlessly authoritarian. But I don’t have nearly as much info on china, it seems to me the persecution of minorities is less of a central political scapegoat and more some weird side thing. But without speaking chinese, I might be wrong. The US had plenty of fascist characteristics at this point and is rather open about the persecution.

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        The US is fascist because it’s in crisis. Imperialism is decaying and austerity is being brought inward.

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      I’m not trying to fuss over what to call something. My intended point stands.

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        It doesn’t, though. Socialism is not fascism, and all socialist states need to exert authority against capitalists and fascists to continue to exist. Class harmony is a lie.

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          My point is that the forms of oppression that occur in China aren’t exclusive to the capitalist class, and remain something I oppose.

          Which stands.

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            But all of what you listed is used as a means to control the capitalist class, not as an arbitrary measure to oppress people. In your country, those same measures are used by the capitalist class against the working classes.

            It does not stand because you rely on erasing vital context, that being which class uses it against which.

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              What are you even saying? Preventing independent journalism is oppressive towards the working class now? Censoring the media is oppressive towards the working class?

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                Letting private press say whatever they want in a country where capitalists would love to take over the state would be suicide. Capitalists have a muzzle placed on them. Legitimate criticism from the working classes is not censored, while misinformation and pro-capitalist speech is.

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                    Capitalists and fascists should be censored. As for queer rights, they are improving over time, and the CPC does not actively oppose them, the most anti-LGBTQIA+ measures are taken by regional governments, not the central government. Many areas are more open and progressive.