A recently released Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) document titled “Domestic Terrorism Symbols Guide”* links common protest symbols to “terrorism” — another marker in a common theme of conflating militant protest for social justice with deadly terrorist violence within the United States. Groups like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Brennan Center have raised warnings about such documents, citing inadequate protections for people’s constitutional rights.

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    I said it back in 2001 when the war on terror started.

    First it will be the “terrorist”, then the “extremists”, then it will be the “dissidents” and then finally the “undesirables”.

    Seems we are at the dissidents stage.

    The idiots behind this shit really should have paid more attention in history class.

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      The idiots behind this shit really should have paid more attention in history class.

      Oh, they paid plenty of attention. That’s the problem - they’re using it as an instruction manual.

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      Except the FBI also labels the entirety of MAGA as the same, so no, this isn’t what’s happening.

      What’s happening is some of these groups are radicalizing and yes, that is indeed a bad thing.

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      Yes, the radical right is a problem but that doesn’t mean that the radical left isn’t one. Yes, right may be a bigger problem than left but that isn’t the point

      The point is that radicalism is the bad thing here, whether it’s left or right. I’m tired of having discussions about why it’s actually ba bad thing to “kick a Nazi” as some people just don’t understand the obvious.

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      Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if there were syops to radicalize anti-fascist groups to make them less appealing to the masses.

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    This has always been the case with stuff like cointelpro. The FBI’s job isn’t really to solve crimes but to crack down on things that the powers that be don’t like. The FBI and similar organizations need more public oversight and the definitions of terrorism need to be restricted and narrowly defined.

    Because businesses will see disrupting like a ceo as “terrorism” etc. The pipeline protests were treated this way.

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    Excuses to label you as a criminal so their overreach is justified.

    Talk about double speak, being against fascists and racists means you’re terrorist now, LMAO.

    FBI has long since been relabeled as the face of the cia, nsa and are the gen pop wranglers.

    Call this shit the fuck out for what it is, an attack against Americans of ALL political backgrounds. This is a unified issue, they might only be banging on your neighbors door but you are next.

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      Yup, it’s setting up a legal framework that allows them to designate anyone that ruffles feathers or speaks out as a violent extremist, and haul them off without much recourse (it’s worth noting that if you’re arrested on terrorism charges, your rights are automatically suspended).

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      Unfortunately, the face-eating leopard party is not generally concerned with their own faces, so long as people-they-hate’s faces are being eaten too.

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      There has always been a big disconnect between the USA’s fantasies of its values and its actual values.

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    “Eat the Rich” is now a symbol of extremism…

    That is extremely funny and extremely stupid at the same time. Honestly, after both of those conflicting feelings wore off, I am left in a state of confusion.

    I mean, I get it. Just because phrases or symbols are used in extremist movements doesn’t make the phrase or symbol exclusively extreme, with some exceptions. (Idiots will look at that “guidebook” and just leverage the FBI classification as a means to reinforce a bias, regardless of the context.)

    For example, the Gadsden flag is a part of American history. However, it has also been hijacked for different causes. (I sarcastically see it in its original context as people still holding a grudge against the British, TBH.)

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      However, it has also been hijacked for different causes.

      Another example is an American flag off the back of a pickup truck, usually a sign that the driver is a bigoted douchebag

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        Part of why I like redesigning the US flag, I feel like the left needs their own banner that can read patriotic while still sending a strong message.

        Latest direction I’ve gone has been switching the stars and stripes to represent the 7 original articles of the constitution and the 27 amendments that have since passed.

        The old flag represents America’s growth via manifest destiny, its growth as an empire via conquest, while this represents America’s growth as a democracy via reform and the expansion of rights.

        For reference:

        https://i.imgur.com/qiwF7eT.png

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      For example, the Gadsden flag is a part of American history. However, it has also been hijacked

      And here are some of my favourite versions to mock those it’s now mostly associated with:

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    What does antifa have to do with anarchy? I remember first seeing the symbol at Major League Soccer matches in Seattle in 2009. Lots of Amazon employees of liberal, but somewhat mainstream democratic POVs often raised the symbol. I thought it was just folks that hated racism and fascism,but not necessarily anarchist or socialist.

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    Oh no, what will we do if the FBI targets left-wing activists for insane reasons? They might give the J. Edgar Hoover Building a bad name.