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    If Biden reschedules (or even better legalizes — I know this is a larger challenge legally) cannabis and takes a harder stance against Israel, I think he would win most of the key states he needs to win the election. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, and to a lesser degree Georgia will determine this election. The rest of the states are locked in. A 1% swing can mean the difference to prevent a dictatorship.

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        Also, I genuinely don’t think most Americans care all that much to the degree it would affect their support of Biden.

        I’m struggling to think of anyone I know who is so upset about Israel they would consider throwing the country to Trump, and I know a lot of people that have very strong opinions on Israel.

        It just doesn’t track. If you’re against Israel’s actions, you’re probably also not keen on fascism, racism, and authoritarianism…so logically, you’re not keen on letting Trump win.

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          According to the census, 1.1% of Americans are Muslim and many Muslim leaders are encouraging their base not to vote for Biden. They aren’t voting for Trump either but since Muslims lean heavily democrat, a non vote is the same as voting for Trump in a swing state. It isn’t that they want Trump and authoritarianism, it’s that they are protesting against the US support for Israel.

          Source: https://apnews.com/article/muslim-swing-state-biden-vote-fb3b93f465ed6fd34a901c269a084a90

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            Well that there is a failure of Muslim leadership.

            Hatred is often a self destructive thing. Not voting for Biden increases the probability that Trump will win which will be a very bad thing for Muslims in the US. So they’re willing to cause themselves harm over their hatred of Israel.

            Maybe it’s time people stop listening to leaders that want to sacrifice the people they lead to make themselves look like strong men?

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        Wow that’s some straight up antisemitism right there. Sorry, but there isn’t some secret Jewish Cabal controlling the world.

        Go outside and touch some grass, ok?

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          Hi there. Jewish person here. The people you are accusing of being antisemitic are 100% right. AIPAC has controlled the American political stance on Israel for decades.

          If you care about American Jews, stop associating them with Israel. That is what is getting us harassed and attacked, being automatically associated with Israel.

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            Yeah this is the internet and I can claim that I’m a Palestinian that thinks that Netanyahu is completely in the right. Which proves what exactly?

            Also note that racism towards “Cosmopolitan Jews” was a way a certain group used as a gateway for people that weren’t willing to be antisemitic towards all Jews. But we know how that ended.

            So today it’s considered to be good and correct to hate “zionist jews” by those who would normally think antismeitsm is wrong. Meanwhile in my city there’s an Israeli consullate, but the protesters don’t go there, they protest in the middle of a Jewish community, and have attempted to burn down Jewish businesses. While you’re distinguishing between “cosmopolitan zionist jews” and other jews, there are many people in the Palestinian movement who are not.

            We need to stop looking the other way about what this is really about. An antisemitic movement that wants to restore the ethnic makeup of a geographic area to the way it was in a history book by the use of extreme violence. “Blood and soil”, “from the river to the sea” same shit different century.

            I’m not a Jew but my grandfather fought in a war against people that did the same things the Palestinian movement is doing right now. Jews went along with the movement my grandfather fought against too, you know. So the same bullshit from a century ago and how it affected my grandfather means a bit more than your unverifiable claims about being a jew. This ain’t about you, this is about fascists trying to burn down Jewish businesses in the city I live in after my grandfather sacrificed a lot to fight against that kind of evil.

            Now go on and make excuses for the violent actions of the fascists in your movement like a good useful idiot.

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              You are welcome to look at my comment history and see how many other times I have talked about being Jewish.

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                I really don’t care. There were Jews that joined the Nazi party. Historically being Jewish hasn’t exactly been a prophylactic against being a part of antisemitic movements. You may think you can win over the violent elements in a movement to only hate a subset of Jews so you’ll be fine. But when there’s a night of the long knives you find out only the opinions of those with the knives really count in these kinds of movements. And they aren’t going to care that you were “one of the good ones” when the knives come out.

                They already don’t seem to care what kind of Jew goes to the synagogues they shoot at.

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            Sigh.

            Promoting conspiracy theories involving Jews being puppet masters that control your government is textbook Goebbels kind of shit.

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              They weren’t claiming that jews are puppet master overlords that control our governments

              They were claiming that Israel has a strong political lobby that can do a lot of political damage to politicians that don’t align themselves with Israel.

              They do this by doing exactly what you’re doing. Claiming or implying that anybody against Israel or the pro-Israel lobby is an antisemite.

              I’ll remind you that “jewish people” and “Israel” are not the same thing.

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                I’ll remind you that “jewish people” and “Israel” are not the same thing.

                You need to tell that to the people that are shootiing at synogogues, trying to burn down jewish businesses. There is a Pro-Palestinian movement in my city that are protesting a Jewish community instead of protesting the Israeli consulate that’s in this city. Maybe tell them they should be protesting the consulate not the jewish communtiy because they don’t seem as enlightened as you are to understand the distinction between Israel and Jews in other countries.

                But you aren’t going to do that, are you? Could upset your friends in your movement if you criticize their actions.

                The Palestinian movement has proven the need for a group to lobby for the well being of Jews in the US. If you won’t speak out against the antisemitic activity that’s occurring in the Palestinian movement because you’re too busy spreading conspiracy theories on the internet, then yeah there needs to be some group that’s able to talk about these issues to those in power that are able to protect communities that are in danger from your allies in your movement.

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                  I never said antisemitism doesn’t exist. Neither did the person above. Nor did anybody else.

                  You’re bringing that up now as a distraction. Criticising the actions of the regime in Israel, a regime that has openly stated they want to see the eradication of all Palestinians, is not antisemitism.

                  “My” friends in “my movement”? What are you talking about? I’m not involved in a movement against Jewish people.

                  If you’re referring to me being against the genocide being carried out by Israel, then yes, I’m against that.

                  But it’s not really a “movement”, it’s the default. I guess with that line of thinking I’m a part of all kinds of “movements” - the “anti-paedophilia movement”, the “I don’t like kale movement”, the “people who think alligators are scary movement”, the “people who dislike chores movement”, etc.

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        You mean if they were stupid enough to try nominating any of the candidates Biden beat 4 years ago? Stupid enough to gamble on a new candidate, ignoring the fact Biden already beat Trump once? Stupid enough to ignore the fact the fact that the incumbent president more often than not wins reelection?

        You’re right, democracy is on the line, now’s the best time to fucking gamble it away.

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          “now’s” as good a time as any

          “this time for sure”

          “can’t believe how easily this will be to beat trump”

          “better of 2 evils! don’t worry we’ll just go further left in 4 years :)”

          “oopsie dead babies :(”

          [repeats ad nauseam until the libs are dead or go further right]

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            don’t worry we’ll just go further left in 4 years :)”

            But we did. The Inflation Reduction Act was not only the most climate friendly bill in US history, it bolstered domestic green energy companies so much that Canada and Europe had to pass similar legislation to stay competitive (and keep companies from relocating).

            The unfortunate fact of the matter is that Israel is going to keep killing babies, and the US president is going to support Israel, no matter who it is, for the foreseeable future.

            Your choice is if you’ll willingly accept the burden and do whatever you can nonetheless to help the most people domestically and globally – or if you’ll pretend you aren’t carrying the burden, and you’re willing to throw women, black Americans, brown Americans, gay Americans, trans Americans, etc under the bus to maintain that delusion.

            No matter what you do, if you pay taxes in the US, you’re funding infanticidal Israeli weapons. Democracy is shitty like that. The majority of people are uncomfortable with all the civilian deaths, but a majority still wants to fund weapons for them. Don’t like it? Grit your teeth, try to make a difference, and minimize any unnecessary support to Israel.

            There will be no leftist utopia except from the labor of blood soaked hands from those who understand there’s no other choice. I can only hope that one day my kids or their kids will be able to judge me without any hypocrisy, because we successfully made a world free of these awful realities.

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              I can only hope that one day my kids or their kids will be able to

              Libs over here acting like they’re going to have GRANDkids let alone kids. SMFH

              Burn down the MIC

              There is no other way

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                Going to tell you: History is not kind to leftists who kowtow to Fascists because they’ll “burn it down” (Look up Social Fascism)

                They end up with bullets in their heads rather than glorious revolution.

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                In case you’re wondering, for future reference, the reason why you never seem to find progressives who’ll vote for Biden or support the mainstream Democrat candidate is because when we try to earnestly explain our viewpoint and how we think we can help the most people, we just run into non serious memelords.

                But on the bright side, it wasn’t wasted time on my part. People still saw what I had to say, and you made it look all the wiser. Shame that you’ve only continued to drain supporters from your “burn it down” caucus though.

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                  You still live in a delusion that playing by their rules will somehow fix any of this shit (not to mention the selfish act of having 2 generations into WWIII)

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    If Biden ended the war on drugs it would nearly completely clench at least his party’s re-election, probably swing the congress on over too.

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        Honestly, people being able to get tested known doses of various drugs of choice would save a lot of lives and create a lot of opportunity to intervene and help people recover. Making drugs illegal just causes miser and funds crime.

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      Maybe for weed, but I don’t think that would be so clear cut for other substances. Even here San Francisco, the public is only willing to go so far with decriminalizing.

      I would wager that weed, and maybe certain hallucinations would be bump in the polls, but for narcotics and opioids, ending the war on that stuff would hurt him. But maybe I’m wrong.

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        Ending it would involve more than lel drugs are legal have fun. It would be a shift to focus on treatment, rehabilitation, and prevention by treating social deficits that tend to breed addiction, those are proven consistently effective treatments. If prohibition ever worked we wouldn’t have weed, alcohol, and coke would sell completely caffeine free beverages.

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        would be bump in the polls

        Yeah and Biden could really use a bump

        But enough about Hunter

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    I’ll bet good money that if he tries it it’ll be closer to August

    Because you fucking know it’s gonna get challenged and that the Supreme Court is gonna be all brow furrowey trying to invent a reason why it’s unconstitutional to not pursue a drug policy based in exactly zero medical science.

    At least if it’s near the election the topic will still be fresh by the time SCOTUS chooses that laws are for binding Democrats and protecting Republicans.

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      It would be extremely hard to argue that, but given the three clowns trump appointed who knows.

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      SCOTUS is extremely unpopular. If they tell Biden to throw more people in jail and he replies with a very public, “get fucked you corrupt prison lobby shills” his poll number would go up even higher.

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    They legalised cannibis in NY and now my 79 year old mother is getting high at parties. Thanks Obama.

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    Every politician says they will legalize weed if it gets them votes. No politician will ever actually legalize it though because then they lose one of their biggest platforms to draw voters. The single-minded boomer vote also disappears if he does legalize it.

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      That’s what everyone thought about abortion until those maniacs did it. This would be different though since there isn’t as much backlash and then they can also say they have to protect it next election.

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      I dunno, I sort of feel like Roe is the real holy grail here. I don’t think that most conservatives actually care about cannabis, but they are happy to enforce it because it causes people to suffer.

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    People are funny.

    Biden will probably get this done. He said he was going to, seems like the administrative steps to do so are happening.

    But here’s what will happen: the Supreme Court is getting ready to shred another longstanding precedent known as the Chevron Doctrine. Without Chevron, any federal court will be able to enjoin any action of any federal agency just by saying that the agency’s interpretation of the statute, even though it’s reasonable, isn’t what Congress really intended. In other words, agencies will no longer be able to regulate much of anything because corporations will just file a lawsuit in some backwards ass federal court district and the judge’s interpretation of the statute will carry more weight than the agency that administers the statute.

    That’s the Republican plan, here. They give half a shit about DEA administrative scheduling, they can’t wait to destroy the FCC, SEC, IRS, EPA, FTC, FEC, etc. If the DEA reschedules cannabis, and the Republicans cannot lock up enough black and brown people, they will judge shop until they find one to say doing so isn’t what Congress intended with cannabis prohibition statutes, and enjoin the rescheduling.

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      You know, without Chevron, it won’t matter what the DEA thinks and there will no longer be a schedule… Just like our stoner founding fathers intended!!

      Ok but really you’re saying like all this destruction is necessarily bad because all government is necessarily good. These agencies all have legislated remits that will largely be unaffected. DEA and ATF will hurt the most which I’m okay with.

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    Ah yes, because it’s not about doing what is right, it’s about political gain. Fuck america so so much.

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      That’s kind of inevitable, and not such a bad thing. The president is one person. One person shouldn’t be deciding what is right arbitrarily. For the president to be looking at what the people want, that’s a good thing. Now, our democratic systems are deeply flawed, so that “what the people want” and “what improves electoral chances” are not as closely tied as they should be, but that’s another matter.

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        Yeah it’s basically baked into the system. Politicians will be politicians and there are other checks and balances like the vote that are supposed to keep them reigned in. Not excusing bad behavior on the part of politicans, but as voters we could excercise more control over them if we were more educated and organized. There are too many crappy politicians that aren’t afraid for their jobs.

        This is obviously simplifying and ignores other urgent problems like gerrymandering, vote suppression, and money in politics.

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      It’s not even what’s right in full. Rescheduling helps get us towards legalization someday but rescheduling probably also means people are still going to be sitting in jail for possession until well after 2028.

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      Why not both, though. Plus not letting Trump be the president (which happens through political gain) is doing what is right.

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    Oh they’re going to put this carrot in front of us again?

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        Joe Rogan can’t moderate for shit, is very biassed and as dumb as a brick.

        Even Seth Rogen would be a better option.

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        I somehow think Joe Rogan fellating Donald Trump wouldn’t be deemed suitable for live US television.

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          Where the hell are they? I got to see them on tour like 15 years ago. They do some cameos and voice work every now and then but that’s about it.

          And for that matter, where are the good stoner comedy films??? Everything since Pineapple Express or Grandmas Boy was shit.

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        Nothing should ever be moderated by Broprah. Ever. Like- he shouldn’t even be allowed to moderate his own conversations.