It’s surreal to think about how genuinely good Facebook used to be, before they added the algorithm. It made our social lives better instead of replacing them. You could go on Facebook to peruse events in your area, having an idea of who would be there before you went.
Ive been around the internet since early dial up days, and while I haven’t used every social platform that appeared, Facebook was the one where I saw everyone was really just posting their projected self, the world is amazing fake lives. I dont think it necessarily started immediately like that, but it quickly became that. Its the first place I saw it anyway.
Prior to fb, there was dedicated forums for the music scene I was in to in my area. Everything was in them. Finding what was on was easy as all the promotors used them.
Then fb came along, the forums slowly faded and finding events became unreliable in fb’s chaotic algorithm bullshit. Now some things are not on it, some are insta only etc.
Then fb came along, the forums slowly faded and finding events became unreliable in fb’s chaotic algorithm bullshit. Now some things are not on it, some are insta only etc.
It gets worse on the mobile app because there’s much less control and so much slop, versus accessing FB on a browser with a Violentmonkey script applying custom filters getting rid of unwanted suggested pages.
Discord is (unfortunately) filling the gap now. Why have a bbs when you can have a shitty chat platform with shitty search and conversations that are impossible to track?
Back when I was booking shows it was great because you could blast a small event and know it was reaching a lot of people. Bands would share it, every band member would reshare it. But then I noticed the growing discrepancy between the amount of people who claimed they’d attend online and who showed up. Like so much on FB, the illusion of being a part of something became more important than actually being a part of something. But yeah, for a brief moment there was a bit of “social” in social media. Then came the yelling.
rofl tell me you do not understand how FB got started without telling me…
That shit’s been a privacy nightmare from the beginning.
Zuck has been selling personal info from basically day 1. He’s been abusing people since day 1.
The day people realize convenience does not equal good is the day humanity grows up from a petulant child to a moronic teenager… Too bad it’s looking more and more like we’ll never make it past, “petulant child”.
A much younger korazail saw how my friends were leaving highschool, going to different colleges and foresaw they would continue to spread out after that.
He had an idea of building a website to help keep track of friends so we could keep in touch despite physical distance and enable networking; a blend of Facebook and LinkedIn.
I was a CS major and built a forum and database architecture that my local friend group used for a little bit to chat, but we were all still mostly local and it didn’t seem super useful, and while always on Internet was a thing, I didn’t have it and my server needed to be online to use my application.
A few years later, Facebook.
I wonder sometimes how the world would be if I’d promoted my idea, figured out how to host it outside my bedroom, etc. I might have also just been a Myspace or live journal, but maybe I’d have gotten there first…
I don’t think I’d be a megalomanic asshole, but I can’t prove it.
Events was what kept me on the site for far too long after they went bad. Being able to organise events with friends so easily was incredible. I can track the decrease in my social activity along with fb making their system worse and it makes me sad
It’s surreal to think about how genuinely good Facebook used to be, before they added the algorithm. It made our social lives better instead of replacing them. You could go on Facebook to peruse events in your area, having an idea of who would be there before you went.
Ive been around the internet since early dial up days, and while I haven’t used every social platform that appeared, Facebook was the one where I saw everyone was really just posting their projected self, the world is amazing fake lives. I dont think it necessarily started immediately like that, but it quickly became that. Its the first place I saw it anyway.
Couldn’t disagree more.
Prior to fb, there was dedicated forums for the music scene I was in to in my area. Everything was in them. Finding what was on was easy as all the promotors used them.
Then fb came along, the forums slowly faded and finding events became unreliable in fb’s chaotic algorithm bullshit. Now some things are not on it, some are insta only etc.
Fuck META.
It gets worse on the mobile app because there’s much less control and so much slop, versus accessing FB on a browser with a Violentmonkey script applying custom filters getting rid of unwanted suggested pages.
I like how they specified before the algorithm and you cite the algorithm for why you disliked it
Let me clarify.
Before the algorithm when both fb and forums coexisted was still annoying.
Some events would be on forums.
Some on fb
Some both.
Occasionally I would miss out on early bird tickets or tickets all together.
There was never a point where Facebook made anything better on that front.
Don’t even get me started on the fuckery that fb marketplace is vs what we had.
Discord is (unfortunately) filling the gap now. Why have a bbs when you can have a shitty chat platform with shitty search and conversations that are impossible to track?
I’ve never used discord outside of multiplayer online gaming. And not for years now…
It has IRL event promotion on it now?
They have events that can be scheduled with RSVPs. I was in a local meetup that used those to stream the IRL meetings with the virtual crowd.
Used to be. There was a time when forums and facebook both existed and worked well in their respective niches.
It’s nice that your area had that. Mine didn’t until Facebook, or at least nothing a somewhat tech savvy 15 year old new about.
Back when I was booking shows it was great because you could blast a small event and know it was reaching a lot of people. Bands would share it, every band member would reshare it. But then I noticed the growing discrepancy between the amount of people who claimed they’d attend online and who showed up. Like so much on FB, the illusion of being a part of something became more important than actually being a part of something. But yeah, for a brief moment there was a bit of “social” in social media. Then came the yelling.
rofl tell me you do not understand how FB got started without telling me…
That shit’s been a privacy nightmare from the beginning.
Zuck has been selling personal info from basically day 1. He’s been abusing people since day 1.
The day people realize convenience does not equal good is the day humanity grows up from a petulant child to a moronic teenager… Too bad it’s looking more and more like we’ll never make it past, “petulant child”.
It was 2002-ish.
A much younger korazail saw how my friends were leaving highschool, going to different colleges and foresaw they would continue to spread out after that.
He had an idea of building a website to help keep track of friends so we could keep in touch despite physical distance and enable networking; a blend of Facebook and LinkedIn.
I was a CS major and built a forum and database architecture that my local friend group used for a little bit to chat, but we were all still mostly local and it didn’t seem super useful, and while always on Internet was a thing, I didn’t have it and my server needed to be online to use my application.
A few years later, Facebook.
I wonder sometimes how the world would be if I’d promoted my idea, figured out how to host it outside my bedroom, etc. I might have also just been a Myspace or live journal, but maybe I’d have gotten there first…
I don’t think I’d be a megalomanic asshole, but I can’t prove it.
Why now he has a doomsday bunker in Hawaii, and I’m damn sure he also has a squad of PMCs on retainer.
Events was what kept me on the site for far too long after they went bad. Being able to organise events with friends so easily was incredible. I can track the decrease in my social activity along with fb making their system worse and it makes me sad
Before Zuck hired Joel Kaplan to specifically cater to right wing interests.
It was kinda nice yeah.