Gotdamn yall. Some men think it’s hot, some men don’t. Some women do wear makeup for others, some women don’t. More broadly, no one group does anything for a single reason so we need to stop being so combative online about shit posts.
Fun fact. Men have actually on average longer eyelashes than women. It makes sense when you think about the fact that their hormones promote men’s hair growth.
That means eyelashes, ironically enough, are a masculine feature.
Could you tell that to the hair in my head that slowly disappearing? Although I do have very long eyelashes…
Pluck your eyelashes and get them transplanted onto your head. Problem solved.
And silly me thought all those punks used styling gel
It’s not disappearing. It’s migrating towards your back, your face, and your ass. Ask me how I know.
Looking like a dam yeti at the beach with one bright bald spot.
Ask me how I know
Are you spying on him?
I can neither nor confirm deny that.
Women find this irresistible!
I mean, if a dude exercises, lots of women do go for this look. Beats the hell outa me.
Or if her lips were shaped like balloons
Or: man she looks way hotter with her lips ready to explode from the collagen injected into them to make him look more full!
Ladies please stop doing this it is not more attractive!
To you. Not everything is for the male gaze. I wouldn’t do it myself, and I don’t think it’s attractive on most women. But people aren’t walking around trying to please me. Or you.
Injecting cologne into ones lips inflating them to several times their natural size is objectively ugly.
There are aspects that I find attractive on people that general societal consensus determines to be ugly. I understand this and can admit that what I like is a fetish and goes against societal norms.
It’s ok to like human lips bursting at the seams, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t ugly.
I think that literally is why people get lip fillers.
Why people get these treatments is complicated. Some might to attract men, but others might to “look like their competition,” or “at least I don’t have saggy, wrinkled lips.” It might not have anything to do with men at all, but a general body dysmorphic disorder for deeper mental issues. Or really bad advice from a plastic surgeon. Could be lots of things.
Sure.
Not everything you think is true.
That is true for you too.
Well, I didn’t say I was certain.
I wholeheartedly agree. Please stop and learn to love yourself. Confidence is so attractive.
As a man with glamorously long natural eyelashes, it is not all its cracked up to be either. They get all criss/crossed and bent so they drag ever so slightly on my cornea and since it didn’t fully fall out I just keep rubbing the eye trying to dislodge it and end up just irritating it more.
Fuck eyelashes, they’re another annoying “feature” of the human body. Just like making the air and food hole join and be controlled with a flimsy meat flap. Or putting the male g spot in the ass.
If this is all a simulation, someone is having a riot of a time messing with mods and screwing with character gen.
Fuck eyelashes, they’re another annoying “feature” of the human body. Just like making the air and food hole join and be controlled with a flimsy meat flap. Or putting the male g spot in the ass.
All proof that God drinks on the job. And not the good stuff, either.
I love my long eyelashes. I have not had that problem, though. I would be frustrated also.
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hey so this might come as a surprise to some guys but actually most of the time women put effort into their appearance for themselves, so they feel confident, and comfortable in their bodies.
this post is reeking of Jordan Peterson’s women wear makeup because they want to fuck me energy
You cannot not communicate, the societal notion as to which is “good looks” for women is strongly sexualized and children are exposed to these notions from an early age. Also the subtle or less subtle social pressure plays a big role in it. A friend of mine moved from a “posh” city to mine. She said she didn’t dare going out without putting on makeup for two hours because she would get bad looks in the street otherwise and it took her a long time to unlearn that.
So while it isn’t women wearing make up because they want to fuck, the social construction that makes them feel less confident and less comfortable without make up is revolving around that and it is part of the problem. It is not that women just feel more confident with make up. It is that they feel less confident without it, because they are pressured to feel so.
I’m a woman. We don’t do it for ourselves, we do it so outward society as a whole doesn’t call us “tired” all day. If I thought I could go into work with no makeup and not get looks or comments, I would.
And while I have my disagreement from Peterson, you’ve completely missed the point to what he said. Makeup emulates the changes a face goes through when aroused. It is tied to attraction, which is tied to sex. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.
I personally do it for both extrinsic and intrinsic reasons. I feel very cute with eyeshadow and mascara. Unfortunately i needed a second attempt at puberty so i also need makeup to ensure that no one gives me a hard time for my beard shadow. Including myself.
No dude has ever said “she’d look hotter if her lips and cheeks were redder,” either but ya’ll would cry if we stopped wearing lipstick and blush. Quit your bullshit.
Seriously. I’m sure some people will hyperfixate on the lipstick/rouge example you gave, but generally many guys don’t understand or think about makeup and thus have no awareness of how it impacts how they’re attracted to people. And then they have the gall to lecture others about what works and what doesn’t.
Also shoutout to some of the straight up sexist replies in this thread. Nice to see a sizable chunk of reddit neckbeards made their way over here.
I would say it is kind of sexist to state that all men would cry if women stopped wearing blush and lipstick, and that we don’t realize what we are attracted to. We aren’t a hivemind. I personally prefer natural over makeup.
That being said, yea some of these replies are douchey as hell, and I’m sorry for women who have to deal with that bullshit.
You might be a rare exception that actually means what they say, but the vast majority of men who say “I personally prefer natural over makeup” don’t realize that our “natural” that they love is quite often still a light touch of makeup here and there. Not to mention the sexist implication that we’re necessarily doing it for you.
There are most definitely a ton of men out there who think like that, so I completely understand. I think women can be beautiful with makeup, too, I just feel there is too much pressure for women to wear it, when it should be an entirely personal choice.
I would like to at least make it known that there are men who think women and feminine souls of all types can be attractive without makeup, as well.
But the post is already sexist. Why wouldn’t women want to push back?
not to mention, I get dressed and think “I look good today!”
at no point do i think, “I wonder if the average woman would like me wearing this, and if they wouldn’t I will never wear it again”
I mean I’m bi, so I guess it’s “any given person”
if I had to dress entirely like any person anywhere in the world would like what I’m wearing I’d end up looking like a waiter every day.
But then some people think that women somehow are considering “the average guy” in their dressing habits. I assume the majority of the world gives very little thought to other people when getting dressed.
To be fair guys would still have sex with you if you didn’t wear make-up at all. It’s just that if you like the way you look with make-up, do your thing. I hardly wear any make-up because my cheeks turn red naturally and I don’t want to hide that and add artificial blush. I’ll just do lipstick and smokey eyes.
Men like natural women so we wouldn’t cry.
Red lipstick is the worst. Makes the wearer look clownish.
Nah, calm your tits.
no woman has ever said “these fake eyelashes are ugly as fuck but if i wear them i bet dudes will find me hot”
true story…
How egotistic do you have to be to think that your opinion is warranted with regards to women’s appearance? Good for you if you think you don’t like lashes. No one asked, and I’d be willing to bet you’d see a woman with full face on including lashes or mascara and think she looks great. 🙄
The men in this thread calling women repulsive for wearing lashes are unbelievable. Imagine saying something so horrible to someone about an aspect of their appearance you personally think you don’t like. And then you wonder why no one wants to date you. So fucking sad that the endless male commentary on women’s bodies can make it to c/all and see so much support here.
I’m honestly disappointed in Lemmy rn…
The fact this post is even still up and upvoted without thought is depressing, that applies even if it wasn’t specifically about women or anything else.
Not only that, OP’s post history is quite problematic.
The bumper sticker slogan isn’t really wrong, i think most of us are ignorant to what we do/don’t like in this regard. I would have never said that before a month ago tbh because my wife never got them, and then when she did, I said why waste the money you dont need them. Then found myself staring at her more. I still prob wouldnt say it. As the women have shown in here we can be pretty oblivious. And I think im fairly in tune with small details making a big difference.
Not only that, OP’s post history is quite problematic.
What’s problematic about it? Because I post greentexts?
There’s not much I can say to you to convince you it is problematic, but posts like this and the weird hate on other things.
There’s a fraction of a fraction of a percent of Lemmy users in this thread, it’s probably not a good yardstick to measure the entire userbase by.
The thread isn’t even that bad, it’s the upvotes that’re sad.
This site is becoming the same kind of mysognistic reddit was.
I’m afraid, this isn’t exclusive to Lemmy or Reddit. It’s just patriarchy and toxic masculinity doing its thing
If I’m doing a male equivalent of fake eyelashes, I hope someone would tell me!
Like wearing a muscle suit under your clothes
Would you judge a guy who didn’t shower for months?
Not taking care of your hygiene is not comparable to wearing makeup 🙄 if I went on a date with someone who was unkempt and unhygienic I would assume they’re struggling to care for themselves or doesn’t care. Either way, I’d leave and if they asked I’d be honest and tell them why.
It’s their body though? Who are you to judge?
Every single human being is held to the standards of hygiene. Being unhygienic is bad for your health and can spread disease. Men are not held to the same standards of hygiene that women are. Men are not held to the same standards of appearance that women are. Men are not punished for failing to meet those standards in the same way that women are.
Do you think women don’t get judged for being unhygienic? I run into men in public all the time who I can smell from 30 yards away and who are covered in dirt or oil or God knows what. I very rarely run into women who are comparably unkempt. Women face severe social consequences for being even slightly unkempt. Even if they’re trades workers.
And none of this is even relevant to the topic which is about makeup.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Preach.
It can spread disease in some cases, but generally most people won’t get significantly more diseases if they live a normal life except for not showing for a few months. This has nothing to do with the gender of the person, it could be a woman too. Do you judge anyone for not showering? If so why do you care? You’re almost definitely not going to catch a disease from them unless your in intimate contact with them. Their body their choice.
I think girls who get long eyelashes do it because they like how they look.
And thank god if they do because I would hate a woman who only cares about what other people think of her looks.
You raise an interesting point. Are women’s preferences in how they look organically theirs? Or is it conditioned over time by patriarchal beauty standards? Like, why do women actually like long lashes? If long lash products didn’t exist, would women go out of their way to invent them?
Longer lashes look more youthful and healthy. So do bigger eyes and framing your eyes can make them look bigger, that’s why people use black eyeliner and mascara mostly.
This is of course not “organically” in their interest. It comes from our society valuing women almost exclusively for how youthful and pretty they look.
I dunno. If we’re talking crazy-long-lashes, that’s definitely the desire to be distinctive (something I highly respect). If we’re just talking merely “classic lash extensions”, then good question.
I’m sure some aspect of longer lashes is traditional and inscribed. It’s not like any style trends are truly original these days. “Look at me, I’m edgy. I got a tattoo. Only had to get in line behind all the other edgy people who got tattoos”.
I think stepping further, there’s an aspect of systemic sexism that our first knee-jerk reaction to a woman’s style decision is “men want, or wanted, them to look that way”, but a men’s style decision is more “to be yourself”. I mean, if I’m being myself tossing on a pair of jeans with a polo, she can be herself getting an eyelash extension.
Man, that guy would be so much hotter with a loose toupee.
I knew a girl with thin eyelashes in junior high/high school. She got made fun of for it a lot, by both girls and boys. So, I’m guessing some girls want thick lashes because they learned the hard way that guys do indeed care, and unfortunately society cares in general.
There are two extreme sides. Yeah, if you dont have many lashes to begin with, men will notice it as a flaw.
Right now, extremely large lashes are popular. I suspect it arose from Instagram makeup posts, or Instagram beauty in general. Eyelashes are harder to see in photos, so putting them on causes a fuller look. There are lots of women today who still wear a full face of Instagram makeup every day. The look today is extreme.
The sad reality of false lashes are that their regular lashes will eventually all or mostly fall out with extended use, both the glue on ones and the thraded in one’s. It’s a self-fulfilling cycle, because eventually they’ll have no natural lashes at all, causing them to have to wear them.
I used to wear falsies once a week back in 2010/2011 for a fashion meetup I attended. As soon I saw my natural lashes start falling out, I stopped. Now I only wear them if a Halloween costume calls for it. It’s not worth it otherwise.
And before anyone comes at me with: “But if you wear them pRoPeRlY-!”
It doesn’t matter. Humans aren’t infallible and mistakes happen. Over a long enough period, those lashes are coming out.
Yes, guys care, but what we have today isn’t just a reaction to men caring, it’s Instagram selfish culture in general.
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Mates, makeup ain’t for y’all. You know how you spent eight hours messing with your .bashrc or rolling for counter strike skins or whatever weirdass hobby you have? You don’t do it because you are trying to attract women - you see your friends get into something cool and you get competitive with them. That’s what it is for the womenfolk. They get their nails did and do weird ass makeup looks because it’s a fun hobby. They know that you probably don’t care about the difference between coffin and ballerina nails. But their friends do, and they want to show off, because it’s fun.
Wow, this is a wake up call. I have been wasting my time on this .bashrc file.
Time I enjoy wasting isn’t wasted time … so yeah, totally wasted on .bashsrc, but the programmer socks make up for it.
programmer socks
I know I’ve been online for too long to know if these are just nerdy socks or cute thigh highs for ricing
They get their nails did and do weird ass makeup looks because it’s a fun hobby.
One of my all time favourite xkcd comics and that’s saying a metric shitton!
yeah well I don’t think they’re doing it to be hot to guys (which is actually easy as shit anyways) you know.
