At this point I’ve adapted to somehow reading and seeing the picture at the same time
I think that’s pretty natural? If you weren’t getting any of the movie there’d be no points and we’d just read the subs on a kindle or something.
I always enjoyed subs, but wished I could understand the original Japanese, so I took Japanese classes in HS and college to learn the language. Now I can’t help but listen to the Japanese AND try to read the subtitles at the same time. (ー_ー*)
Ironically, when you read subs you do inevitably miss some nuances of what’s going on.
On the plus side, the translations can be much better since they don’t have to match it to the lips of the characters.
In the end, I like both, but I tend to watch more dubs. Japanese is a really neat language, though. Sometimes it’s fun to watch subs just to hear it.
Well… you can’t spell subtitles without tit…s.
I watch anime for the beautiful animation (not necessary the “plot”)
Having text plastered all over it kinda takes away from it.
So I will watch Dub every time.
It is also a great way to check if an anime is good, since they don’t put so much effort in to dub something mediocre (usually)
if you don’t watch it for the plot then why don’t you watch it in Japanese without subtitles?
“plot” = sensual or sexual content
what? we’re talking about the storyline
Someone once told me the dub for Mushoku Tensei was better than the sub. That person was a liar.
Also, that anime is incredibly weird.
Huh totally normal anime, with a pervert toddler. Mhhh hold on a minute.
I wouldn’t say better but it is solid. Watching it dub with the wife and the dub isn’t detracting from my experience.
Yeah I can’t watch subs. I don’t want to have to read for a movie. I want to see the faces and expressions of people or characters as scenes play out. If I’m reading subtitles, I’m not immersed and the story doesn’t slap as much for me.
I read the subtitles for the “plot” after all 😅
pov: too lazy to learn the language
I generally watch dubs… but if I can have the subs on at the same time as the dub I’ll do that.
I only watch subs by itself if there is no dub, or if the dub is rediculously bad.
I actually think dubs get a lot of hate they shouldn’t be getting so many of them are actually pretty good especially for a lot of modern shows.
Interestingly fairy tail is actually one of the better ones imo.
During my early teenage weeb days, I used to be a sub purist, disavowing anyone who preferred dub. I’d refuse to watch an anime with someone if they chose dub. However, I’ve changed a lot since then and now go with whatever sounds better to me. While some dubs are admittedly bad, others put a lot of time and effort into replicating the original Japanese feel, and they do a great job.
I’ve also noticed that certain anime set in specific countries feel odd in Japanese. For instance, when I watched Steamboy, it was bizarre hearing Japanese voices in the cities of Manchester and London. The Japanese voice actors struggling to pronounce English names and words fluently added to the peculiarity.
I don’t buy into sub purists claiming all English dubs sound the same. Truth be told, a lot of Japanese voices also sound similar. There are cliché voices that almost allow you to predict how a character will sound in Japanese just by looking at their design.
And for the fandubs, there should be an additional paragraph as a hat explaining some concept or pun that just does not translate well.
I speak English, and like using my ears and my eyes, which is why I watch dubs. If you don’t speak Japanese, what are you doing listening to Japanese speaking voices?
If you are used to reading subtitles you can read them almost subconsciously. And you don’t need to understand the language to get things like emotion out of it. I would even go as far as saying that getting used to reading the emotions of someone that doesn’t speak the same language as you is essential to fully develop a sense of empathy.
I’ll never understand fanboys that fawn over subs. Why give yourself extra work? Anime is the perfect medium for dub.
I understand that you can lose meaning in translation but most fans do not understand Japanese so why?!?
As an older fan, because historically, dubs were utter crap. Until about 20 years ago, only kids anime got dubbed and when it was that version would be edited and censored. Some companies would also put out a parallel uncensored release and if one was available, it would be subs only.
Even when you started to get older teen anime dubbed, the voice casting tended to be pretty bad.
In my opinion most western voice actors can’t really convey the expression of anime character the Japanese VAs can bring to life.
This is caused by a lot of factors not inherently about voice acting performance, but the language differences. A lot of high pitched expressions are simply non-existed in most other languages, for example. Even if you imitated the tone completely, the language itself as a lot of people know and speak will make the aptly toned expression sound very very weird or creepy within the utterance of the target language.
So for most people dub is simply not on point, or a lot of the times even jarring to match the visual expression to the voice. Subs perfectly keep that distinction.
Most of the time people in western culture finding youngsters imitate anime stuff weird because of this distinction, not because they simply heated expressions, which the target language already has but in other tones and forms.
Once you’re used to it, it really isn’t extra work. But at this point it’ll watch either as long as the dub doesn’t annoy me.
Cartoons that don’t sexualize kids > cartoons that do
But the anti-4kids crowd hates that argument
Your statement is correct, but I think people are taking it as an implication that all anime sexualizes kids, which is false. There’s lots of really great anime out there.
‘but she’s actually 400 years old-’ still gross.
Which ones do?
Well in Pokémon a character asks to suck Misty’s tits, it’s an anime trope for old people to be pervs and you come across a few in the series. There’s the beach episode and you get a lot of shots that pan from her ass
In Yu-gi-oh you get the “love slave” comment…along with yugi’s grandfather being a perv. Mai also hits on yugi a ton which either she’s a kid who they draw with huge tits and a really short skirt or she’s an adult trying to hit on a 14 year old
Inuyasha has Kagome bathing naked a few times
No Game No Life has not just loli but hinting at incest a bunch. But the main character (kid) is obsessed with trying to spy on the girls while they bathe. If you get the light novel then the opening pages are straight up loli hentai
it’s an anime trope for old people to be pervs
Weirdly enough, I just learned in my Developmental Psychology class recently that there’s a very surprising amount of sex between old people going on in nursing homes. Some of the students who’d actually worked in nursing homes before even confirmed it. So the trope may not be as unfounded as we might think.
Not saying old people hitting on kids is okay. It’s freaking weird and gross. Just stating an interesting fact.
I mean a lot of it does, there’s a reason it’s part of the stigma against anime
Even some shows that I otherwise really like have an uncomfortable amount of sexualization of minors. A Certain Scientific Railgun, Steins;Gate, Gate, Gurren Lagann, to name a few
Well I know about Japanese culture with the “perverted wind” blowing up skirts, people peeking under skirts and the crotch shots when kicking someone in the face and getting a bloody nose and stuff. I know about that kind of pervertedness but that seems fairly harmless to me. I’ve seen some Pokémon episodes mentioned which weren’t released in the west, and even then I wouldn’t deem it as problematic. So I am thinking either I’m really naive, which I will say I certainly am, or I am missing some things. Most people I know don’t even know what anime is, and if they do, they think of Pokémon and Sailor Moon. But not much else. So I guess most of this news has passed me by.
[edit] Oh and I’ve seen none of the anime you mentioned so maybe that is the issue. I’m mainly focussed on older anime. But I have just now watched that scene from Steins;Gate and I totally get what you mean if you are talking about that. That is so incredibly uncomfortable and unnecessary to be in there. Graphically I think the show looks nice and I feel like I want to watch this some more if I could have not seen this scene.
Stop watching anime and read a goddamn book
Stop doomscrolling lemmy and trying to post edgy comments.
Why do you think we care about your opinion?
But I can’t click a book.
