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    He is taking zero responsibility. I wonder if he is even capable of understanding that this is all the direct consequences of his actions. Or maybe he is just deflecting. But this is all happening because of you, dumbfuck. You did this. Ten years ago he was getting Iron Man cameos and Star Trek writers thought he some kind of religious figure. Then he went down some right wing freakout wormhole and he drank that kool aid down to the last drop. You did this. No one owes you their advertising dollars. You bought a company that had reach and influence and a huge ass userbase and you fucked it all up. Enjoy your edgy memes and your ruined company.

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            If you were taught on a typewriter, you double space for life. It’s impossible to stop once ingrained.

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            OK that doesn’t show here (Firefox on Linux), I actually copied the text into an editor, and searched for double spaces, and none were found.
            Tried another Browser Falkon which uses QtWebEngine, and there are no doublespaces there either.
            So apparently some browsers render Lemmy posts differently.

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            I really wish it would come back in style. I hate the single space after a full stop, it feels inadequate.

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        I just do it automatically. Thanks to my typing class in junior high in the 90’s. I’m guessing most people on the internet don’t do it? It’s never even crossed my mind that it might be unusual these days.

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          I’m guessing most people on the internet don’t do it?

          Definitely not 😁 But that’s cool, you stand out from the crowd. For us who use an app to browse Lemmy, at least.

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      Alternative conspiracy theory, he got paid to do that, as twitter even with all the bad things was a political tool against fascism and misinformation.

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        Maybe, but I do think he’s dumb and egotistical enough to lack self awareness.

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          He was backed by the Saudis. This money is nothing to them. They win if Twitter profits, they win if Twitter burns. I don’t thing they care.

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        Is he getting paid enough to recoup the 44 billion he blew on twitter?

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          Once you’re that rich, the currency is favours and influence, not just money. He got in out of his depth, then got helped out by some big backers. What they offered him, in the backroom deal, I’ve no clue.

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        Frankly there is no alternate conspiracy that can make this make sense. Even if the point is destroying Twitter, why does he have to be the one to personally take the reputation hit? He could downright hire some celebrity CEO to say and do all the shit he wants done, get all the flak while he relaxes on a yacht. There may or may not be backroom deals but he’s still being a chump for exposing himself like that. His business are taking hits because he’s seen as increasingly unreliable.

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      Twitter has roughly 240 million daily users, about half of whom are from USA. It might be a bit early to call it a ruined company.

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        By comparison Lemmy has 30,000 active users and steadily dropping.

        It’s actually pretty funny how much of an echo chamber Lemmy can be. All I see is positive comments about how Lemmy is so great and growing, and Twitter is dead! Meanwhile it’s the opposite. Twitter is still very much alive, and Lemmy is becoming a small cul-de-sac echo chamber.

        My Lemmy app lets me tag people, which I use to tag people who are rude to others, nice to me, helpful, racist, etc, just so I can remember who was nice and who wasn’t nice to interact with, and I literally see the same handful of people in every thread, and the front page of “everything” is filled with the same people making every thread.

        Same with Reddit. We all thought Reddit was dead, and, well… it isn’t. Some days I really regret getting IP banned for shilling out Lemmy. Plenty of communities I really miss from Reddit that just simply won’t work on Lemmy, because of how Lemmy is so FOSS centric.

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    Tell your revenue stream to go fuck themselves. It’s a bold move Elon. Let’s see if it pays off.

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      You’re acting like he wants Xitter to succeed. I suspect he wants it dead because he thinks it contributed to his child being trans. And also because some of his financiers don’t want an Arab Spring.

      Edit: Either way he’s a piece of shit.

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        I used to agree with you, but now I really think he’s just a narcissist who wants the attention. If Twitter wasn’t profitable, the longer he owns it the more money he’s going to lose on top of how much he over paid for it. If he really wanted Twitter gone, he could have bought it and just… shut it off.

        Like every single techbro, he thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and demands the masses worship him for that. He just was lucky enough to have money to buy an entire platform to stroke his ego.

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    Musk responded that the advertising boycott is likely to kill the company. “What this advertising boycott is going to do is it’s going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail,”

    When Sorkin pointed out that advertisers see things differently, Musk replied, “oh yeah? Tell it to Earth.”

    Sorkin continued: “They’re going to say, Elon, that you killed the company because you said these things and they were inappropriate things and they didn’t feel comfortable on the platform. That’s what they’re going to say.”

    “And let’s see how Earth responds to that,” Musk replied.

    I mean… I think that pretty much removes any last doubt anyone might have had that Elon Musk had any grasp on the reality that he himself exists in.

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      Dude you missed quoting the best bit!

      “If somebody is going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money? Go fuck yourself,” Musk said.

      Sorkin replied, “but,” and trailed off. Musk wasn’t done. “Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey, Bob!” Musk said. Musk was apparently addressing Disney CEO Bob Iger, who previously said at the conference that advertising on X “was not necessarily a positive” association and so Disney “decided we would pull our advertising.”

      The Muskrat told Disney CEO to go fuck himself.

      On video.

      With a hard F. No dissembling.

      The Tesla board should remove him as CEO as he is clearly unstable.

      It’s mean to laugh at people self destructing.

      But anyway … fucking lol.

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          I’m not about to condone suicide.

          But the world can do with less billionaires, especially those as mad as Elmo.

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        Isn’t he talking to Sorkin, tells him to fuck off and then he talks to Bob?

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          I don’t think the fuck off was directed at Sorkin, but the companies who had pulled advertising.

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              A bit of clear eyed professionalism would be a good start.

              What he has achieved in the past is in the past.

              Tesla is a major public traded company.

              Business is business.

              Your charismatic public facing CEO has turned from an asset to a liability?

              Punt him.

              Tesla is facing some headwinds, increasing competition in the EV space, reported troubles with some of its upcoming products, industrial disputes. Nothing that can’t be dealt with … If your CEO is not shitting the bed in public in another company and quite clearly under a lot of stress.

              How can he be providing the attention and care Tesla needs from its CEO and for that matter Space X etc etc

              More importantly how are the public, shareholders, customers viewing this? Do they think there is a loose unit in charge behaving irrationally and will that affect the confidence in the company?

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                  Because they see what he is doing at Twitter? Like, what the hell dude, that question has such an obvious answer, yet you ask it anyway. And I know why you do it - because now you will try to argue that what happens with Twitter and his public image doesn’t matter to Tesla which is a load of bull

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                  We’ve got another fan boy here who doesn’t realize Musk actually isn’t directly responsible for any of the innovations of the companies he funded or purchased. He just had money.

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      You can’t hold a firm grasp on reality if it is distorted by your massive narcissism already. He thinks anyone but the bags of shit still on his platform care.

      Twitter never actually mattered and nothing of value will be lost. He can pound sand.

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        Gaea told me she thinks Elon is a complete fuckwad and is the worst of the worst kind of virus on her.

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      A recent comment of mine:

      In an old interview, Mr. Narcissus [Elon Musk] said he may have bipolar disorder; he said he experiences “great highs, terrible lows, and unrelenting stress”.

      He has doubts because his highs and lows follow events in his life, whereas episodes from bipolar disorder often appear without triggers. […]

      We’d know if he went for an evaluation/possible diagnosis, but I cannot even imagine him doing it.

      Kanye West is usually manic when he acts this way. I guess this supports Musk’s suspicion.

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        He has doubts because his highs and lows follow events in his life, whereas episodes from bipolar disorder often appear without triggers. […]

        Maybe the events are what follow the highs and lows.

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    Bigbrain businessman buys stable business that wasn’t profitable, promises to make it profitable. Proceeds to destroy company’s main/only[?] line of business by using it to air fascism and bigotry, complains about being “blackmailed” by business partners as they leave after he personally made said line of business literally untenable.

    Is he trying to be funny right now or something?

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      IMHO Musk and the 1% saw the collective power Twitter gave to the working class. It was able to usher in the #Metoo movement and finally bring justice to powerful people. The rich aren’t gonna leave a tool like that intact

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        You do realize that’s a marketing line about Twitter, right? It’s a private, for-profit corporation whose entire purpose is to inspire users to give away data about themselves for free. They don’t care what you think, they care how to manipulate you into buying things from them. Go ahead, buy your justice deodorant to wear to the protest. They’re very scared. After all, the government didn’t learn anything about counterinsurgency since the 1960’s, so it’s not like they know how to use all this data and surveillance to keep an eye on us.

        Trump was one of Twitter’s biggest users and they didn’t boot him until he tried to start a fascist insurrection and, again, made it impossible not to boot him. They’re an advertising platform first and foremost, they pandered to the far right as much as to anyone else, and the right got plenty of use out of that platform even before Musk took it over.

        The only way you could think otherwise was not actually having used Twitter since like, 2011.

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          Oh yes I completely understand how they work and harvesting data etc, but that does not discount the fact #Metoo brought down powerful people. Yes they advertise, what does that have to do with anything? Your entire comment is irrelevant.

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            Yeah, but the fact it brought down some powerful people doesn’t mean it threatened the system as a whole. Things like Me Too become threatening to the system when they become widespread and ubiquitous and there’s a perception the ruling class isn’t interested in fixing it up. Also, many upper class people, particularly of course women, are survivors and are not interested in being further endangered by rape culture, so there was support from within the upper echelons about Me Too.

            I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, I’m saying that’s a little perpendicular to the whole question of whether or not Twitter was some kind of revolutionary working-class institution before Musk bought it. It was an influence marketplace. Everybody used it to buy and sell influence. Including progressive movements, and fascists. This had good, and bad, effects, and we shouldn’t put it on a pedestal.

            Musk bought it because he likes to very publicly fuck around with stock prices illegally, there’s been years of back and forth between him and the SEC over this. This is the man who tried to manipulate the stock price of Tesla to $420.69 a few years ago because he thought it would be funny and got charged with fraud by the SEC, then proceeded to use SNL to do a crypto pump-n-dump in real time on national television.

            His bluff just got called this very latest time, so he was forced to make the purchase, and he’s an idiot fascist.

            In reality, all the influence peddling and agitating is just moving to other platforms, and things will be more or less the same as they were after Twitter, sorry, “X” collapses.

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              It brought down some powerful people. Indisputable. Like nothing else was able to do. This was my point. I never used the service. With proper moderation, it could have turned into a valuable asset for the working class in which to hold powerful people accountable when the government is unable or unwilling. This is why INMYHUMBLEOPINION the 1% destroyed it.

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      He’s so painfully unfunny that it’s hard to tell sometimes if he’s making an attempt at humor.

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      His perspective is like a kid kicking a sandcastle that he gave another kid $10 to buy because he thought it was neat.

      What does he care if Twitter doesn’t make money? He is personally set for life, and the world would basically have to end for that to change.

      Why does someone worth 11 digits of greenback currency have to understand what brand safe content is? He could shoot a man in the middle of the street and toss his equivalent of pennies to the witnesses and never see consequences.

      All of this criticism he’s seeing on public airwaves, and his reaction, is revealing him for what he actually is: The single most richly spoiled baby in all of human history.

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        schadenfreude.googled it. Adding it to my lexicon. Gonna be a challenge to learn it by a few days of overuse but I’ll manage.

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          To me it’s such a cool word, because I live in Denmark, and the German word adopted among English speaker is near identical to the Danish equivalent “skadefryd”.
          Maybe not obvious from the spelling for someone not familiar with both German and Danish.
          It’s funny when words spread between languages. Not just new words, but old words that describe concepts.
          Schadenfreude is a very nice to have in your vocabulary, but if you want something even better, you should absolutely have “hygge” too, that’s an even better word, and that’s 100% danish. 😀
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygge
          The article says it’s also Norwegian, which is true, but we were originally 1 nation, and I’m probably a little bit biased in that regard.

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        My guess is he probably knows more about it, than anyone else alive on earth today.

        This is musk, not trump

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          The link I provided quotes him for saying:

          “I think I know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on earth.”

          So this is both of them, and frankly there is very little difference between them. Musk just used to manage a better front, but he has thrown the mask.

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      I think he was always like this. It’s just he’s now ALWAYS in the limelight, and it’s much more visible.

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    “What this advertising boycott is going to do is it’s going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail,” Musk said.

    No need, you making twitter toxic to advertisers and the resulting fallout is already very well documented.

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      Even if it wasn’t obvious that he is the problem, he’s underestimating how many people think that toxic shithole has run its course already. Those advertisers might as well be cheered for it.

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      The fight we had after you caught me cheating killed our relationship. It’s your fault, and I’m going to tell all your friends.

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      Sure is. Lower prices to entice them to come back and stem the bleeding… It will be a spiral down from there as this does not seem to be salvageable.

      A textbook example of what happens when you tear down things of which you don’t understand why they are there.

      At the end he might sell it off for parts to some other techbro.

      Anyway…

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        Lower prices to entice them to come back

        Sadly, that will probably work. Just like it did the last couple of times. Or just wait a month.

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    Musk says X advertiser backlash is “going to kill the company.”

    For once I hope you’re not wrong, Musk!

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    I have never in my life seen an interviewer try to get someone to save face like this. Elon has zero self awareness, and he’s basically behaving like a petulant child. Who the fuck sees this man as a genius?

    He needs to stop hitting the ke–actually, no. He needs to hit more of that shit. At least until the road dead ends.

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      I’m glad that I never fell through the hype of him being the real life Tony stark, 10 years ago people were sure this guy was going to get us on Mars and save the world. There are Comics out there of him being not only supportive of trans rights, but inventing the Tesla Model TG in order to give us all cat girls

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        I would be willing to forgive a lot if he could give us all cat girls. Not all, but a lot.

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        No, his more of a Steve Jobs, in that he knows how to get the right people in a room and get investors to invest in his companies.

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        Why wouldn’t he have to pay? He already had to pay when he bought it. He put in cash and took on debt. The only real benefit to this thing tanking is he can take a massive capital loss and probably never pay income tax again.

        The downside is he would owe a lot of money to people you don’t want to owe and he looks like a bigger moron by the day. Sooner or later, Tesla investors are going to get spooked by his deranged behavior and then he’s in a world of hurt. All his wealth is tied up in Tesla and he uses his position as CEO to pump the stock with all his bullshit lies. It’s like a giant Ponzi scheme. As soon as the value comes back down to Earth and the stock is priced like a normal company he’s in big trouble.

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          probably never pay income tax again

          He doesn’t pay income tax now. He has no taxable income. The guy isn’t drawing a salary, his money comes from capital gains and he’s taxed on that.

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            Yes, that’s correct but a year or two back he did liquidate some of that money and to pay taxes. I thing he’s the record holder for having to pay the must taxes at once by a single individual.

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    He seriously thinks the public will blame the former advertisers and be angry at them when the issue was obviously Musk running the company into the ground?

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    While I’d normally support someone telling Disney to go fuck itself, it doesn’t mean much coming from Musk.

    Was he ever rumoured to be a pedo or anything like that?

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    Imagine watching Kanye West destroy his public image and then in the same year thinking “Nothing bad will happen if I make antisemitic comments on the media platform I own.”