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    Ah. So the “left” aren’t social left, they just see money as the answer to all social progression too. Got it. Well that explains our current Western progress and predicament. Lot of growing up to do if, as far as social progression goes, money is seen as a power rather than a weakness. Ain’t no one in need getting any that way.

    History repeats and we all stay the same. New generation, another dollar.

    At least “eat the rich” makes more sense. Robin Hood would rob the guy and not socially recognise them as a king. More important things to do.

    Edit: I actually expected more down votes than this (7) and was wanting some discourse. Anyone? I’m looking for someone to state what’s not already called out in that a core issue is the perception of monetary wealth being a controlling factor of social imbalance—which of course it is with a society of that perception.

    You’ve all got bank accounts drained for the people, not your house deposit, right? Right? Sorry… Left? Left?

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        You calling me crazy? Just 'cause I got a hotel in my foot doesn’t make me a boogalymoogalymoogaly!

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      The Left: Rich people are the problem

      saltesc: So you agree that money is power? Gotcha!

      Everyone: What does that even mean?

      saltesc: Don’t dismiss my word salad without discourse!

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        Well, actual left doesn’t base itself on economical attributes. So it’s interesting to see a meme go straight to wealth while claiming leftism. Part of being on the left is recognisimg wealth as a faux controller and issue. Actual left doesn’t socially want in on it too. Actual left would aim at rejecting an acknowledgement of wealth by reinforcing services and freedoms to all without requirement of wealth, thus diluting the importance and value of money.

        This comic almost opposes that by weighing importance of wealth. It’s insulting to leftism by claiming “this is left”.

        A lot of the replies seem to be the trending American ideas of leftism which are very new and very unique to a $27T GDP with stonks of social issues. Kind of trying to force the two to connect, but that’s not how leftism works.

        Y’all can literally Google it right now if you need to know what being left is. It’s social equality you’re meant to be working on, not getting a piece of the pie. Recognising and blaming distribution of wealth is literally opposing leftism because it’s acknowledging and giving finance power. The comic is more “I feel left out” when it should be “your money is nothing”.

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          TIL criticism of the status quo isn’t left. Neither is criticizing power dynamics. It’s not about sharing the cake equally but pretending the cake doesn’t exist. This will feed the hungry and house the homeless.

          Sure, occupying empty houses will house the homeless but only if you are prepared for the power dynamics which is the police will evict you in no time. I wish money was nothing but force ain’t nothing and the state has a monopoly on force, so as long as they think money is something, it is. Good luck with your mutual aid initiative or what ever it is you are doing and we can try to change the system, but we can’t just ignore it.

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            States where the society views money as less important than social issues/equality already have and will continue to get progressive social benefits. You can’t put a value on something if every expects it to be free. Lack of wealth is not an issue when everyone expects things to be free. But by recognising wealth and pricetags does money become important and thus hoarded. Th cake isn’t money, it’s cake. You don’t need money redistributed for everyone to get cake when cake is expected as a social staple and offset by the society as a whole.

            This is fundamental leftism. A society won’t achieve it if they’re focused on people having more money than them. “But how will I pay for cake if they have all the money?!” Uhhh, you don’t. You demand the cake and halt everything until you get the cake. Once everyone has cake, back to business as usual.

            I can’t recall a single historical social issue that was resolved by acknowledging and redistributing wealth. Enough people just demanded it and social equality happened.

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              I love how you totally ignore my point. Sure, money isn’t the cake, but housing is. Good luck ignoring the cops that evict you!

              Sure, I want a classless, moneyless, stateless society but on the way there, we can’t ignore what is. I’m not a Marxist but I think we can agree that Marx was left. He wrote a book “Das Kapital”. You can literally google what it is about.