US transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said human drivers must pay attention at all times after videos emerged of people wearing what appeared to be Apple’s recently released Vision Pro headset while driving Teslas.

Buttigieg responded on Twitter/X to a video that had more than 24m views of a Tesla driver who appeared to be gesturing with his hands to manipulate a virtual reality field.

Despite their names, Tesla’s assisted driving features – Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self-Driving – do not mean the vehicles are fully autonomous, Buttigieg said Monday on social media.

“Reminder – ALL advanced driver assistance systems available today require the human driver to be in control and fully engaged in the driving task at all times,” Buttigieg said.

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    A lot of the people that drive these things are acting like children in adult bodies. I have seen some wildly dumb shit happen. It’s like the car company created by the Darwin Awards…

    I literally once saw someone eating on a little folding table/desk of some sort in their Tesla (driver seat, of course) with the dash screen playing some sort of media.

    Another time, the person was playing a handheld gaming console of some sort, in the driver seat.

    An the automatic lane switching doesn’t adjust for people speeding up in the passing lane well. I’ve seen a couple near accidents there.

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      I mean the table thing and the gaming sounds cool… The issue is them doing it while “”“driving”“”.

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          Those days when clearly something wants to come out of you and you feel like shit but it takes forever to want to go up… Some people does the fingers thing… but I have never ever got it to work tbh.

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            Nah I just had a long visit with the MIL and there were some times I wished I could have projectile vomited at her to get her to shut up. Really anything to get her to shut up. The topic of the day was how much she hates her sister.

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      I guess they are related no? Like it makes sense to have both.

      The issue is seeing movement but you are not physically moving…although the car you are technically moving but… I guess confused the brain as the movement is not caused by you.

      In my case I don’t get sick on car ever… And in VR the same, the only exception is on VR I might lose a little bit the orientation and lose my equilibrium for sec but very very rarely and not enough to fall thankfully.

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        It’s a mismatch between what the eyes see and the ears feel. In nature, this generally only happens when you’ve been poisoned (think drunk). The obvious solution to being poisoned is to empty the stomach, to limit how much more gets absorbed.

        The effect is processed at a fairly high level, mentally. This means you can influence it. E.g. if you focus on the difference, in an accepting manner, and your subconscious will stop reacting to it as badly.

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      I always wondered were there less accidents back then? Horses probably actively try not to run into things right? But they can also get scared and go crazy so who knows

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        Riding horses or in horse drawn carriages was banned in the city of Rome multiple times in antiquity, because of accidents involving two horses.

        Cars will come to a stop, eventually, on their own. Horses get spooked and run, causing a much bigger problem.

        Mary Todd Lincoln once jumped from a carriage after her driver was thrown from the seat and the horse began to speed away. The resulting injury left her with migraines for the rest of her life.

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        There are stories from horses bringing home their drunk, sleeping ‘drivers’ because they knew their way home.

        I’d guess there were less alcohol related accidents…?

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    People have always been idiots behind the wheel. I started driving before personal electronics and touchscreens were a thing. You still saw people bracing books or newspapers against the steering wheel with their thumbs so they could read as they drove down the highway. Now it’s watching movies, texting or other social media, video conversations, reading…

    Just seems that there are way more people doing it. The social contract gets more broken every day.

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    Between this and the crApple VR thingy on the NYC subway, this makes me wonder for the fate of humanity.

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      And it looks fake, honestly. If you see videos of YouTube reviewers using the device, they do way less poking and tapping and like, weird throwing of the hands that the person in the OP video is doing.

      Same with some of the other videos of people walking across streets and through traffic.

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      They’re not true AR devices, they’re VR headsets masquerading as AR, you’re still just watching a video of the world around you. As good as the Vision Pro’s passthrough video, it’s still passthrough video and doesn’t have the same resolution as our eyes would have, plus it probably blocks out at least some of your peripheral vision. I do think having a HUD while driving would be nice, but it would need to be able to restrict any sort of extraneous content out (like youtube videos or whatever) and ONLY show information needed for driving (maybe have music/audio controls at most).

    • Oh, you “could.” But I’ll bet you these individuals aren’t. These morons are looking at videos or scrolling the web or some other stupid attention diverting shit.

      I’m not sure there even exists any kind of hypothetical “AR driving assistance” app for the Apple Vision. And there probably never will, for the obvious massive liability reasons.

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      The issue is the government’s biggest concern isn’t safety, it’s being able to legislate those being unsafe. Which can actually be conflicting, because even if a VR headset showing directions on the road itself is less distracting than looking at a separate phone/GPS- a cop doesn’t know if you’re doing that, or if you have YouTube in the corner of your eye.

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      Yeah and what would you do if the device malfunctions or runs put of battery? You’d literally be blind.

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          Yeah, sure. You just “take it off” while driving a +2000kg metal block that’s circulating at 40 to 160km/h. It’s totally fine to lose control over your friggin eyes while operating a machine like that.

          I’m sorry but you’re either a troll or just very dumb.

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    I mean, I’d use partial self driving on I5 to eat my taco bell, but I’m still paying attention to what’s in front of me!

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      I am more concerned about the innocent people who will pay for the assholes “bad idea” will their lives.

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      Realization might only last for about a millisecond or two.

      At some point, doctors are gonna tell a guy, “your face is already irreparably damaged by these AR devices in your sniff… just as an experiment, why not improve the enhancements surgically?” And that’s how cyberpunk 2077 gets on the rails.

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      After seeing some people having their face branded with their car logo from the wheel the the airbag fired… actually this might be better protection…

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    It’s Fred. Don’t worry about him at all, he’s really good on speed runs up and down the 5fwy. He always gets home with extra tokens and a good 5000 points.

    I wish my Toyota gave me points for driving it!