Japanese disaster prevention X account can’t post anymore after hitting API limit - The issue has arisen after major Tsunami warnings have been issued in areas of Japan following a strong earthquake::undefined
How about avoiding commercial platforms when it comes to vitally important official communication?
They do, all phones get an emergency alert and tvs display a message. Twitter was another vector to spread the word out.
Well. Then they should tell those people who still use X that this is an unreliable source. For anything else it already is, anyway.
Or maybe if you use x you should be smart enough to understand what’s going on already lol
I don’t rate people who still use X as “smart”.
Problem is that no noncommercial platform would ever have the same coverage as a commercial one like X. People simply would not see the necessity to install it until it’s too late.
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Android & IOS have an emergency alert system that the government can use if they want to.
It doesn’t have to be an entire service. It could be a Mastodon / Lemmy node under their own control, but they should still mirror the information to other social media platforms, perhaps with a link underneath pointing to their own server as source of truth.
This is quite frankly what all NGOs, news orgs and major companies should do - federate so they can moderate their own message. Seems bizarre to me that the BBC, or UN, or NATO or whatever wouldn’t want to control their messaging this way. But realistically they do need to mirror the message out to other services.
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Chances are your government already releases news on its sites. When was the last time you looked?
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Could always go the route of an amber alert-like system being primary and then pipe the same msg to their secondary commercial platforms (like X). I’m not privy on the details but it sounds irresponsible to rely on X primarily/solely.
That’s what they’re doing, Twitter/X is only redundancy
Oh nice this sounds less worse than it seems then
I bet they spam that message through every medium they can - TV, radio, loudspeakers, phone alert, text, traffic signs, all the social media platforms.
Imagine if the only alert of the impending death wave was some federated lemmy server which was having a few network problems that day.
I get all the local disaster updates from startek.website!
So far, nothing has been reported, but I have a feeling the users will come pouring in soon!
Aaaaaaaany day now…
My house flooded. But it’s not reported, so it didn’t happen!
Kind of like the amber alert system?
The thing is, they communicate where people’s at. People gotta move
People will move if they learn that their lives are at stake by using X.
It’s almost like trying to run the world on social media was a shit tier idea.
It was a good way to offload responsibility for something actually working.
With social media the unreliability card has been played (by us, asocial nerds, killjoys and neckbeards) and beaten (by them, normal sane social successful people) 10+ years ago, so even when it’s a serious role being discussed, that card can’t be played again.
It worked pretty well for what it was created to do, then corporations and governments thought they could profit off of it. I assume they were also concerned that people were starting to talk about things they didn’t want people to talk about, like their penchant for buying and selling children.
It worked pretty well for what it was created to do
Which is the unknown variable in this conversation.
Say, for my ends social media never worked well.
It pains me to communicate with many (by my measure) friends and acquaintances, knowing that those are basically DMs on a site ran by somebody and hundreds (or maybe thousands) of employees can just read those DMs. Writing personal things there, because people refuse to be worried about being likely eavesdropped on.
In general the worst prison is the one you’ve built for yourself and locked yourself in. And to learn to sing one has to start singing.
I can understand what you mean.
I suppose on my end the reason that social media exists was as a forum for open communication with strangers that you would never actually meet in real life, generally to discuss interests and hobbies, or to just shoot the shit. I’ve never viewed it as a platform for replacing the methods we already had for communicating with people we did know in real life, such as phone, or just meeting with them face to face.
Why governments would ever use a private service for critical use baffles me.
Create your own emergency notification system!
Japan has various earthquake notification systems. Tweets are just one more way to get the information to the people on a platform they use.
They have one, but you also want information to be where people are. Especially if where people are is full of misinformation and rumours.
NERV isnt owned by gov and:
Luckily, the creators of the NERV App, Gehirn Inc, have created an app-based alternative for users to get information in real-time, as well as running a Mastodon account.
It makes a lot of sense to post where the people are. Roll your own and note the people need your app/etc. granted, everyone is reading X on their smartphone and I’m 100% positive that Japan has the same kind of emergency broadcast system that we have in North America, but again that’s not meant for lots of messages, where a social networking site is.
Create your own emergency notification system!
Those never turn out well.
Running their own mastodon instance should be viable though.
I remember seeing that they did have a fediverse account? This seems related to that
Yup see here:
It’s also in the article linked above:
Luckily, the creators of the NERV App, Gehirn Inc, have created an app-based alternative for users to get information in real-time, as well as running a Mastodon account.
This same issue happened during wildfire season in BC, Canada if I recall. A small polite media outrage over it, then forgotten.
Best case scenario would be an independent, international system developed within and for the emergency services community worldwide. Judging by the way firefighters travel internationally to fight forest fires worldwide, the community could be strong enough to support a solution like that, in my opinion.
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I feel like this is warranted:
Fuck Elon.
Come on, this is totally the japanese government’s fault. They should be aware of the limits of the services they use. How are we blaming Twitter for the incompetence of the japanese government? I get that we want to hate in Twitter but how incompetent is that team? A disaster prevention team didn’t forsee the limits of the communication services they use?
I don’t like Twitter but come on, stop shifting the blame.
Twitter worked. Elon bought it. Enshittification ensued. Twitter broke. Hmmm…
What an astute and elaborate explanation. Surely this is this answer and the guy you responded to is definitely over simplifying it.
Sounds like it’s time for governments to get off Xitter.
Everyone should.
Why is a critical service like disaster precention using an unreliable service like Twitter?
It’s probably one of numerous ways they try and reach people. Wouldn’t be surprised if they have it set up to spam alerts out through various mechanisms including social media. It’s just that one platform is now complete dogshit. Maybe this failure will hasten Twitter’s decline in Japan.
Why not? Wouldn’t you want information going out on every available service? They likely have info going out on Facebook as well.
Let me just pull out the old Pidgeon
NERV announcements got blocked? I guess he’s not getting in the robot after all
Society if people read the article:
I read the title. Had some thoughts and opinions. After reading the article, the thoughts and opinions remain the same.
The article lists prices for next level api requests but it’s 5000 dollars compared to the 100 that the non profit is already paying. They encouraged users to download their app to receive potentially life saving alerts.
I summed up the article in three sentences.
I’m not defending X or anything, I’m just asking people to read the damn article before going in with the obligatory “Why not Mastodon?” If they had read the article, they would’ve known that the project has a Mastodon account already and we wouldn’t have been wasting our time.
Fair. The common user uses the easiest, most accessible programs and applications. At this time, lemmy or mastodon is not common.
Make a fancy colorful app with big buttons and fun pictures and people will flock here. From what I see, the common user base here is advanced level tech people.
That’s ugly and scary, use this instead
That looks like it supports a few dozen people, maybe?
Not sure if it’s the residential part
Or how about this?
bugs. bugs everywhere. damage from roots. watering nightmare.
I don’t think any more bugs than an average suburban neighborhood. If you look closely, it’s a lot less dense than it appears, although even people who live in rural areas don’t have some super insect problem. Damage from roots can be mitigated by using the proper construction materials. You don’t have to water anything. It’s outside.
I grew up in Jamaica. If that image comes with the eradication of mosquitoes, I’d be more open to the idea! Even the sturdiest materials, proper drainage, and regular pruning would eventually see erosion issues and excessive maintenance requirements. But I’m certainly not an engineer that could solve for all the long term concerns.
Here’s some picture of commie blocks for reference I guess:
Slightly better ? still looks like a giant lawn with masturbatory buildings
Aseptic lawns ? glass & metal buildings ? flying cars ? Surefire way of preventing me from reading any future article
If only there was some sort of legal agreement that should and could be reached when the govt wants to use some private platform to communicate something important to people. If only.
I can’t even install software on my work computer unless IT and security have vetted it, questioned the company if necessary, and approved it. Government and corporate use of social media platforms should be no different. I bet the lack of privacy most of these platforms have wound be against the security policy of any company with a competent IT and/or compliance team. Imagine what social media would be like if all the corporate clients were just like “nope, not happening”, hell, we might even have slightly more responsible social media platforms.
@L4s Just FYI the NERV app mentioned on the article is not government official. (Althought I believe it uses government oficial APIs for earthquake detection)
That’s a bot account BTW. There’s a flag next to the name to indicate that but I guess it’s not visible on mastodon.
Yeah, it just added automatically when hitting Reply here on masto. TIL that if you delete the @ mention, it still becomes a thread :)
If you’re already replying to someone, the @ seems totally redundant.
It’s just the default way on masto, I guess for microblogging historical reasons.
@L4s Gee thanks Elon
Time to switch to mastodon.
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Have you actually seen Japan social media usage? They’re like the second largest Twitter market in the world. Why would they be more attuned to Mastodon vs Twitter?
I think the replies to this post really captures Lemmy’s energy and I love it.
Holy shit, didn’t know there is an actual Nerv created by an organisation named Gehirn. I mean, good what they are doing, just hope, that Gehirn doesn’t get around to do the instrumentality project. Otherwise we will get problems with angels
Great work Elon ! Now Twitter’s service has indirectly impacted the life of some people
Have multiple accounts and rotate through them with each post. But then you have to make sure all of your followers are following all accounts. It’s a shitty workaround but it’s a shitty platform to begin with.
One likely reason they’re still on X is so those that didn’t get the memo to use their app or otherwise can’t still can still get alerts. Switching to multiple accounts would require people who likely wouldn’t notice to follow the others, and those that would do that would hopefully have downloaded the app. And yes, if a person isn’t noticing they need to get the app they likely won’t notice a critical alert, but when you’re dealing with people’s lives everything counts.
At that point, I think it would be more reasonable to move people to a more resilient network, like someone else recommended, Mastodon would be good for this.
And that’s not to blindly shill for Mastodon. It genuinely happens to do this one thing particularly well.
Right, because it’s not on the platform to remain how it was. It’s now the users’ responsibility to completely change how they interact with the service so they can have the same functionality.
